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1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:12 pm
by leoca
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Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:12 pm
by A112H
Looking good mate

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:57 pm
by GC75
fixed ya pics mate, looks good! :mrgreen:

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:07 am
by 75wagon
I wish I still had my one of these... :cry:

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:14 pm
by TR11KY
Nice mate! It'll be a wild shock to many who come up against her im sure.

Do you trust that 90 degree cooler pipe hose man? Im suspicious of its strength for sure.

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:21 pm
by leoca
Early present for the Lancer .
New TPS and O2 sensors.
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Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:52 am
by leoca
TR11KY wrote:Nice mate! It'll be a wild shock to many who come up against her im sure.

Do you trust that 90 degree cooler pipe hose man? Im suspicious of its strength for sure.
I'm just putting EFI on now mate.Couldn't get her registered otherwise :(

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:17 pm
by leoca
Great,the motor is running...although a little roughly.Its a bit loud though,suppose it does have the 3 inch exhaust...no turbo now it was to be expected .

Yep she would idle and nothing else initially.I would try to rev and it would die...You really need to keep the stock TS/TR airbox with the loom and all the sensors when you do it.
I am pretty happy with where i am at.LC Lancer with turbo less JDM 2.6 Starion engine ,custom extractors, and full 1996 TS Magna Multipoint EFI (except for the plenum itself)...Should be able to get registration now after the modification check.

Things needing to be done.
1.The clutch doesnt engage ...unsure of why..cannot drive it at all.Does it need a rebuilt slave cylinder?
2.Bad water leak from heater, even when off.
3.Thermos need connecting up to automatically operate when required.
4.Fix the centre console.
5.Finish interior.
6.Have airpipe made for stock airbox.
7.Wiring to sort out ...losing ignition on start.
8.Why doesn't the ECU run the fuel pumps?.
9.LH brake light stays on all the time???
10.Panels and paint.
...wow there are a few things still hey!
10 plus "X" :D .Enjoy ,power to weight ratio should be greater than in my Starion :thumpsup:

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:33 pm
by leoca
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>Now installing full Starion pedal box and master instead of going with modified LC pedal.
>Gearbox to come out .Unexpected but necessary ...will have to be a custom clutch I'm told.
>Have replacement heater box.

If I can get all that done by Feb I will be happy!

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:39 pm
by A112H
Not sure about the electrical tape on the inlet to the throttle body but the rest looks excellent, great job mate.

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:49 pm
by leoca
Galant_GT0 wrote:Not sure about the electrical tape on the inlet to the throttle body but the rest looks excellent, great job mate.
Noted...its on my "To do" list.The throttle control turned out well...I was able to use the cable off the Starion widebody engine

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:34 pm
by leoca
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The thermo fan switch and relay ...twin Davies Craig.Making the mounts and brackets took ages!...see old battery spot for intercooler pipe to come through maybe.

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:40 pm
by leoca
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Starion clutch pedal box installation...the modded original one would probably never have worked.It is quite easy.You only have to position it right ..bending of a bit of the upper bracket was needed.Afterwards I removed the entire LC clutch pedal..

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:45 pm
by leoca
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The master cylinder..only had to remove a small piece of Lancer metal to get the position as high up as possible for the top nut.
The extractors are custom 4-2-1.You can't see the O2 sensor in this photo

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:06 pm
by Rally_2.6LC
ill get a pic of my O2 sensor, you will piss yourself....dodgy to the max

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:24 pm
by leoca
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New fuse box I made up .
1.Lift pump
2.Hi pressure pump.
3.Starter motor.
4.Thermo fans.
Other wires on circuit breaker go to into cabin.

I didn't use the lancer coil loom at all ( see loose wiring to hide). (H)
Notice the oil catch can from a Starion?

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:35 pm
by Cottees
Galant_GT0 wrote:Not sure about the electrical tape on the inlet to the throttle body but the rest looks excellent, great job mate.
I agree. You should have used duct tape.

Something else I just saw, you are using pretty much the same fuse box I am for my EFI conversion on my GN.

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:15 pm
by leoca
Cottees wrote:
Galant_GT0 wrote:Not sure about the electrical tape on the inlet to the throttle body but the rest looks excellent, great job mate.
I agree. You should have used duct tape.

Something else I just saw, you are using pretty much the same fuse box I am for my EFI conversion on my GN.
OK ..it'll be done professonally soon as I fix the clutch problem and drive it to the exhaust fitter..the electrical tape was just something I had lying around...being an electrician I have stacks of it!. Was only ever going to be temporary.

Yes , for me the wiring you've described to get her running in your excellent post, i.e. the fuses that run off the positive, the ignition etc ...the ones for the ECU and the control relay ...I have tapped power from off the ignition barrel (key) where I actually have them under my dash near my knees.
I have used those long black screw up fuseholders for cylindrical fuses for this part.Theres not a lot of wiring in a lancer, and ample room to hide it all.!...even though the clutch pedal gobbled up some space
Cheers (H)

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:59 pm
by leoca
Removed box,found throwout bearing gummed up ...going out and staying there.
More issues, the clutch is totally stuffed.Guess that's what you get for not being able to drive a half cut.

New replacement $395 cheapest .Ouch..
By the way, being a 240mm diameter (not 225mm like sigmas) finding the right one took a while.
The clutch was also used by Mitsubishi on the import Challenger V6's...

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:41 pm
by phildeb
Hi , how did you go with the steering box,, I have trouble with my extractors ..To close to the box, it keeps buggering up the seal. I guess a heat shield would help :think:

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:28 pm
by A112H
You guess correct :wut:

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:01 pm
by leoca
phildeb wrote:Hi , how did you go with the steering box,, I have trouble with my extractors ..To close to the box, it keeps buggering up the seal. I guess a heat shield would help :think:
I don't have a steering box anymore because the previous owner had converted it to a rack and pinion set-up.
I am koping it is a good job..unsure of the donor car or any details.Have spare LC if things go wrong...its about the only way to get parts for these cars .We own the last 4 in Brisbane I reckon.

Cheers mate

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:01 pm
by leoca
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Flywheel differences that I noted between the Jap/US Starion 2.6 and the GN Sigma .Both flywheels for 2.6.
The one on the left i had lightened for my other rebuilt engine.It was 282 mm across and weighs 10.4 kg.
The one on the right was from the import engine it was 302 mm across and weighed 9.7 kg. So it was lightened by someone , apparently they were 16kg new!.You can see more steel has been removed on the RHS one .

With a little effort the gearbox will be done by tomorrow.!!

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:11 pm
by leoca
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I have fortunately purchased a diff for the project , picked up on Wednesday .
It is a shortened Scorpion diff with a 3.3 ratio.this should be closer than my stock Lancer one at 3.9 or so , and will give me more accurate speedo readings, as well as being stronger .Even have the right gear for the speedo.
The guy I bought it off had it in his Galant so track will be fine.Very helpful and knowledgable.Just a note he owns no less than 5 Galants!.2 modern H seres ones , 2 4-dr Chryslers and 1 2-door Galant that was a FULL import..no compliance plate, with a 4G63 transplant and Quad throttle bodies!.
Cheers!

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:43 pm
by shuggy
make sure he becomes a member :thumpsup:

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:30 pm
by woops
I tried to convince him to be an active member when he was at the jap car show at pine rivers park a few months ago. He would be a real assets if we could convince him to come on board. He's got his car on cardomain though. He's got a really nice set up with his 4g63 install too and even retained his heater by swapping a tap from a completely different car. Apparently the coupes have a different heater than the galants due to them being a jap made vehicle which allow for the swap from a sierra or something like that.

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:10 pm
by leoca
I managed to get her running with the pod filter, so this looks under the bonnet now.
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The interior with 2 inches centre console plastic removed, for shifter/ handbrake clearance.Thats where i put the ECU too...on the wal next to the passengers left foot
Was going to get new carpet($190) in red but no holes cut out for shifter or handbrake :\ !
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Clutch in and seems to work fine after a few minor hassles.
By the way you DO need to brace the top of the starion pedal.Heres where I did it.A custom angle iron piece.1 bracket hole bolted to one of the steering colomn bolts, the second via the pedal adjust bolt.If you don't the clutch will have worn out a lot quicker.

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:54 pm
by leoca
Brake problem was leaking rear cylinder and faulty master .Air everywhere.
Brief test drive afterwards ...this car has a lot of power (most) around the 4-5000 RPM range.
The sound at 4000 is something else!.May need to tone it down a little.

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:52 pm
by leoca
Next problem , looks like the waterr pump is stuffed .
One thing after another here.
I actually already have a new one but I want to get my hands on a turbo one as it has a water return for the stock turbo.
Its the timing cover that has a oil return in it. :)

Re: 1979 Chrysler LC Lancer -4G conversion

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:36 pm
by leoca
At the safety check stage now.

Turbo water pump didn't arrive in time, normal one went in.
Modification plated after a few issues were dealt with
The steering is no good that previous owner had no idea what he was doing ...mod guy didn't see...didnt put it on a hoist.OHHH #@&*+% not a good feeling to get it knocked back for that.
Not only that he's torn a huge gash in the trans tunnel where he was supposedly going to cram a CA18DET gearbox in...yeah right!Sarc!
I've just removed a good Power steering box and linkages from our wreck so all should be good soon...back to normal

p.s don't buy ICE brand thermo switches ...they break.