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Twin carby setup

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:27 am
by Scorpma82
Hi guys,

Although i've had a few sigmas over time (the lastest version a green GJ wagon with a GJ Scorpion front-end fabricated on the front of it) I am only a very new member.

I am currently in the process of getting the money together to get another wagon and graft on the scorpion front end again.

In terms of power i'm planning on using a stroked up Astron II N/A running twin exhausts (again, getting moved on from my old wagon).

I've heard that...although rare...there is an intake manifold that bolts onto the A2 motor with twin mikuni solex carbies....is this true??
Are the solex carbies used for this manifold the standard carbies used on the Sigma's, Magna's etc????

If not, is there a LYNX or REDLINE manifold to adapt twin downdarught webers??

Any help on this will be greatly appreciated


Kind regards

Scorpma82

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:47 pm
by geezer101
This is how they look (these are mounted to a 2 litre head from a scorpion)-Image
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They are manually choked and only the first carby is fitted with a fuel cut solenoid and a secondary vacuum actuator...

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:41 pm
by Scorpma82
geezer thats pretty much the 'look' im after.

They appear to be just a pair of standard Sigma carbies.....are they??

If that's so, i'll simply bolt on a pair of TR/S magna carbies as they identical to the Sigma's with the exception of having bigger venturies. (so i've been told)

Are these manifolds rare??
are there any aftermarket versions???

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:37 pm
by 81GL
Can't say I've ever seen these manifolds to suit an astron 2 head.

Although it wouldn't take much to weld the mounts on.

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:04 pm
by Scorpma82
as far as manifolds go.....whats the difference.....i thought it was just the fuel pump going from mechanical to electric...which i was going to change anyway


Can't you still port and polish the heat and manifold to suit each other anyway??

Kind regards

Scorpma82

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:20 pm
by 75wagon
Scorpma82 wrote:They appear to be just a pair of standard Sigma carbies.....are they??
They are close, but not quite.
There are minor differences.

Here is a topic I put together on the set up for a 4G32 (1600) set.
http://www.sigma-galant.com/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=2655
Scorpma82 wrote:Are these manifolds rare??
reasonably.
Scorpma82 wrote:are there any aftermarket versions???
Not that I know of.
Scorpma82 wrote:If not, is there a LYNX or REDLINE manifold to adapt twin downdarught webers??
There are adapter plates to bolt down draught webers to Sigma manifolds. You would be able to bolt a pair of webers to one of these manifolds. The hard part would be getting the throttle linkages set up so the would work together. And then tuning them to suit.

Here's a manifold for sale?
http://www.sigma-galant.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=8033
It may still be available?

Dave...

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:33 pm
by geezer101
Scorpma82 wrote:geezer thats pretty much the 'look' im after.

They appear to be just a pair of standard Sigma carbies.....are they??

If that's so, i'll simply bolt on a pair of TR/S magna carbies as they identical to the Sigma's with the exception of having bigger venturies. (so i've been told)
There's a big difference between the Magna and the carbies used on twin downdrafts. The Magna carbies are a "feedback" carby with a throttle position sensor and 2 electrically triggered control solenoids with a wax pellet type choke. I haven't been able to find a decent pic of a Magna carby but I'd bet it has a plastic resin body as opposed to die cast alloy body as used in the Sigma carby.

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:14 pm
by astronturbo77
the twin carb factory manifolds are for astron 1 only.

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:12 pm
by SIKMA
So you cant adapt this manifold without some welding if you ever wanted to put a magna head on your 4g54?

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:34 pm
by Superscan811
SIKMA wrote:So you cant adapt this manifold without some welding if you ever wanted to put a magna head on your 4g54?
A while ago I saw a flange adapter from Astron I to II.

Wouldn't be too hard to make yourself if push came to shove.
The top bolt holes and ports are the same, and the bottom bolt holes don't interfere with each other or the manifold.

Only other thing is the rear water port.

Cheers.

Re: Twin carby setup

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:02 pm
by SIKMA
I see. The only reason why I asked if that I might be buying another sigma and I already have a set of these twin carbies, so out popped the idea of a hi flow ported magna head using these carbies. But realistically, probably not worth the effort. If I was going to invest in hi flowing a head, I might aswell buy a set of twin webers or dellortos, or even your quad carby set up!