difference 2.6L & 2L..astron 1 & 2.having troubles!

[ISKA8]

hi guys i recently got another complete carbie engine to put back in the gsr,non turbo?having trouble with either the alternator or power steering pump??one or the other wont line up with the harmonic balancer pulley? the motor that i got was out of a 84 model sigma,manual but i dont know what series??my gsr is a 84 but were the power steering pump bolts up on my block ,there are 2 bolts goin in to hold the bracket on the side of the block,but on the new motor there is only room for one,and its still not in line with the pulley?
how can i tell the difference between a 2l and a 2.6?? or astron 1 and 2
the engine numbers on the block are the same as mine??
its bloody got me f@#d?i know its hard to describe without looking at it but im really confused.

[81pw]

Did u change the pully over to the new motor. Models with powerstering have 3 grooves for belts and the non powersteering only had 2 grooves.

[TVM006]

Hey dude, Its out of a '84 GK GSR' 2.6 astron 1... unsure bout powersteering bolt holes

[A112H]

I can't remember the last time I saw an astron so don't flame me if this is a stupid question
Is the PS pulley out of line because it is supposed to run on a different belt? Maybe the engine your using doesn't have the extra pulley bolted to the crank if it wasn't a factory PS car it came from?

[Superscan811]

Maybe the engine your using doesn't have the extra pulley bolted to the crank if it wasn't a factory PS car it came from?

Not a flame but all astrons in sigma's/scorps that I have come across, have the power steering pulley, some don't have the Aircon pulley OR the aircon pulley is only bolted on, but all have the PS.
It's what the timing mark is on.

Cheers.

[A112H]

Stored away in the info bank

[ISKA8]

Did u change the pully over to the new motor. Models with powerstering have 3 grooves for belts and the non powersteering only had 2 grooves.

did you mean the harmonic balancer?? that pulley i havnt changed.do i have to change it? but then it still wont change the fact that the block only has one bolt placement for the power steering were there are meant to be two and one on the timing cover?its just that the belts arnt inline with the powersteering,alternator or balancer?bloody weird.

Hey dude, Its out of a '84 GK GSR' 2.6 astron 1... unsure bout powersteering bolt holes

did you remove the powersteering pump out of the motor i got off you? the car is the same model as mine,i cant have a astron 2 motor can i??why would it be different?

I can't remember the last time I saw an astron so don't flame me if this is a stupid question
Is the PS pulley out of line because it is supposed to run on a different belt? Maybe the engine your using doesn't have the extra pulley bolted to the crank if it wasn't a factory PS car it came from?

on my engine all the ps and alt fitted with no problem,but realised that the motor i got,didnt have ps on it,and the alt in it was diff to mine coz mine i think was electronic??( well it has a plug on it which connects to my microtech.)
i just took a closer look and the ps isnt that far off being inline with the pulley but the alt is far off.i can move the alt forward with a thick spacer but not too sure if that would work.do these motors run two belts or one,only coz i had 2 and the motor i got had 1?
im bloody confused!

[TVM006]

didnt have power steering, but that doesnt explain not having the bolt holes.. cos my other Sigma didnt have PS until i later fitted it (has the holes) although it is an Astron 2.
got any pics?
The alternator on your other engine would have been different, magna one? (wires from the reg). I put magna guts inside sigma alternator housing and it fit.
I don't quite understand, maybe you might need to change the pulley but thats annoying.
Sorry bout confusion harry!

[HEMI26]

hey harry your eng is a a2, the 1 u got off az was an a1 thats y every thing is diff with it but it will still go in.

hey az was it a man or auto?

[TVM006]

Hey dave its from a manual.

[HEMI26]

thanx for that az from that i can say it would be a wide bloke to

[scorpioncollector]

none pwr steer blocks only have one mounting on the block itself (14mm bolt), the timing cover has another two (of which u only use 1) threaded mounting points(12mm) plus one that bolts through with tm cover bolts(12mm).
Alternator mountings dont differ that much only the ajusting brakets. Crank pulleys only need to be swapped over.
Just keep messing with it. It will come to you.

[ISKA8]

didnt have power steering, but that doesnt explain not having the bolt holes.. cos my other Sigma didnt have PS until i later fitted it (has the holes) although it is an Astron 2.
got any pics?
The alternator on your other engine would have been different, magna one? (wires from the reg). I put magna guts inside sigma alternator housing and it fit.
I don't quite understand, maybe you might need to change the pulley but thats annoying.
Sorry bout confusion harry!

dont apologise aaron its all good mate..just giving me greif thats all..and yeah my alt is off the magna!

hey harry your eng is a a2, the 1 u got off az was an a1 thats y every thing is diff with it but it will still go in.

hey az was it a man or auto?

cheers dave,yeah i bloody figured it was different..just curious though,is the clutch cable the same??or diff?
so my motor is a astron 2..wide or narrow block?

none pwr steer blocks only have one mounting on the block itself (14mm bolt), the timing cover has another two (of which u only use 1) threaded mounting points(12mm) plus one that bolts through with tm cover bolts(12mm).
Alternator mountings dont differ that much only the ajusting brakets. Crank pulleys only need to be swapped over.
Just keep messing with it. It will come to you.

hmm ok,ive got the timing cove bolt in,but like i said the pump has 2 holes in the bracket and those two would mount on my block along with the timing cover bolt..the block i bought only has one.it still bolts up though..like you said mate,it will come together..hopefully!! hense dave stating there diff.. cheers

[HEMI26]

the clutch cable should be the same dude and i would say ur block being a 2.6 man it will be a wide block

did u get the pully sorted for the ps? and i would say the alternater will bolt staight up

[ISKA8]

i havnt changed the pulley yet,im heading out to do it soon..now are you talkin about changing the ps pulley or my harmonic balancer pulley(crank pulley)??
hopefully get it sorted today.ill keep you guys posted and see if any other problems arrise.

[HEMI26]

the harmonic balancer pulley dude so u have the grove for the ps pump

[ISKA8]

cheers dave,ive changed the harmonic balancer and all is well for now..now to jump on the wiring??gotta hide all the plugs for the efi and figure out what goes were,bloody nightmare lookin at it.im still running my microtech for ignition but not using half the sh@#,so still got some work to do for EPA,then take the motor out,put my turbo one back in and then FOR SALE! f@#kn over it!

[HEMI26]

good luck there dude with the wiring, are u running it n/a efi?
if not my scorpo is still to gether if ya want a peak at it or i can put picks up for the carby set up if ya need it

[ISKA8]

good luck there dude with the wiring, are u running it n/a efi?
if not my scorpo is still to gether if ya want a peak at it or i can put picks up for the carby set up if ya need it

thanks alot there dave,your a bloody champion..i running the carby setup for epa but still having the microtech as its hooked up for ignition and sh#%,the rest of the wiring i have to hide somehow..if i have any problems your the first guy ill see.lol appreciate it all buds.

[HEMI26]

all good man, n good luck there