Frankenstein's Monster- '81 Scorpion

webby · Post by **webby** » Sun May 08, 2011 2:07 am

Can anyone tell me the OD of the Scorpion struts? The weld on coilover kit Otomoto are selling is just what I need.
Would prefer to have the 8kg springs but if I have to get the 55mm kit (6kg only) it's no biggie. Can source the heavier springs elsewhere.

C_Fernance · Post by **C_Fernance** » Sun May 08, 2011 8:48 am

Just checked some later 2 bolt Scorp struts and they are 54mm OD. Pretty sure the earlier Scorps and Sigmas are all the same from checking in the past. Galant struts are 51mm OD if i remember correctly.

webby · Post by **webby** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:21 pm

Thanks a bundle mate

I'll be converting some 3-bolt GH Scorp struts (shortened with Camira shocks and the coilover kit) to save pulling the car apart, while I'm at it I'll get the GH steering knuckles shortened around 20mm for some extra steering lock.
I'll have to work out something for the rear, it'll probably just end up being wagon shocks with cut Falcon springs until I can sort something better out.
Brakes, I have no idea. Slotted rotors are cheap, so maybe a set of those and decent pads? What's available to suit the Scorpion caliper?

webby · Post by **webby** » Thu May 19, 2011 2:45 am

So I've been hunting through the online catalogues on the Cusco website on the strength of a rumour, and I found something

They list these part numbers for older Mitsubishi's:
A164A Galant (GJ-GN):
522 410 A (pillow ball caster- and camber-adjustable strut tops), 12.4k JPY
A183A-A187A Starion
521 410 A (pillow ball caster- and camber-adjustable stut tops) 12.4k JPY
521 510 A (Type-ST front strut brace) 12.6k JPY

Good to know at least one company still makes stuff for our cars

These were the 2011 catalogues too, so there's a fair chance they aren't discontinued

webby · Post by **webby** » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:42 pm

Seeing as I've been looking at getting some of my numerous Magna steelies widened, and with the exchange rate being so good at the moment, I thought I'd look at some of the D-window steelies that companies like Bassett Racing (who won't ship to Australia, unfortunately

) and Diamond Racing produce.
At a little under $380US+postage for a set of 15x8 and 15x10 in whatever PCD and offset you desire, I think it'd probably end up cheaper to do it this way

webby · Post by **webby** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:45 am

Decided on 8's all round, +0 up front and -20 for the back, with 195/50's. Less effort involved getting an 8 -20 to fit than a 10 +0

Just paid for a GSR rear spoiler (cheers Smithy

), gonna see how much work it'll take to get it to fit this thing. If it works, it'll be black.

webby · Post by **webby** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:31 pm

pistorf wrote:Hit a kerb hard enough with anything and the will break.
Superlights crack between the lug holes ,yet people still swear by them.

Late reply, I didn't notice it until now

Superlites are far, far better quality than rota/sportmax/xxr etc. They won't tear the centre out should you collect a kerb/ripple strip etc, whereas in my experience the cheap Asian knockoffs will either do that or lose a big enough chunk of the lip to cause a blowout.
That said, Rota appear to be getting better in terms of quality. I know guys who have belted gutters with new (<12mths old) ones and they've held up almost as well as genuine wheels.

webby · Post by **webby** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:48 am

Speaking of wheels, I've changed my mind on sizes. Again. Only moved the offset on the rears out 5mm, but still

15x8 +0 (4.5" backspacing) and -25 (3.5" backspacing) would fit nicely, I think. Especially with 195/50's

I'm looking at US$359+shipping.

orangelancer · Post by **orangelancer** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:57 am

what rims you getting? i wouldnt meen getting a set of xxr513s 16x8s on the back and 16x7.5 on the front

webby · Post by **webby** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:06 pm

Diamond Racing D-window steelies.
http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/pro.html

orangelancer · Post by **orangelancer** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:18 pm

oh yeh. theyd look pretty schmick on a scorpion

webby · Post by **webby** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:27 am

http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/stockcar.html
Decided I'll actually be going with these, as from the description they're stronger and at US$290 for my preferred sizes they're a good deal cheaper too

They'll be black.

webby · Post by **webby** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:07 am

Found a pair of 14x7 +0 brake cookers for the front of this for cheap enough. Rears I'll either keep looking for a matching pair of 8's or get a pair of the wheels in the post above.
Anyway, I bought a boss kit. HKB Sports III, p/no. OM10. Corresponds to A164 Galant/A183-187 Starion.

webby · Post by **webby** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:34 am

Couple pics of the small progress I made over the couple hours I was out at the car yesterday afternoon

This one's just to show how high it is, that will be rectified in the next couple weeks. Ignore the half-bar and stuffed guard

geezer101 · Post by **geezer101** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:39 pm

You could've at least given the interior a going over with a vacuum and a damp cloth first! Nice wheels (steering included). They'll scrub up okay.

webby · Post by **webby** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:06 pm

Looks aren't high on the prority list at the moment, it can wait until after I get it registered.
Cheers mate

webby · Post by **webby** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:30 pm

Alright, I know we have a bunch of rally guys on here

There's a metric shiteload of gravel shire roads out here, and I have access to three, maybe four properties worth of farm tracks plus a national park's worth of firetrails so I figure I may as well use them

Anyway, the point of my ramble is I want to set this thing up so it's reasonably controllable on gravel. I was thinking maybe a 2" drop, locker, stiffer suspension, a less rego-spec exhaust, maybe a rear swaybar?
Suggestions? Advice? I don't want to run rallies in this thing, just set it up so it's not so much "hoooooooooly shit she's gonna roll!"

Post by **A112H** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:09 pm

I bet she feels like a dream. I grew up on the dirt roads of the Barossa Valley, when I was a kid we used to slid, drift and rally HT Holdens and XB Falcons in stock trim, lol
You kids have it easy these days

webby · Post by **webby** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:33 pm

Lol yeah, nightmare maybe

I had a VJ Valiant paddock bomb once, it was like driving a truck lol

webby · Post by **webby** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:21 pm

Camera cord has been retrieved

This is what happens when you forget to do a sprocket up *facepalm*

Rims on

Offset yo! Most of it's the 185/65's I put on them, but still

Engine work stage, this is about two hours after I pulled it out:

This is what lies beneath an Astron timing case

Dirteh plugs yo

AJPS reprezent

Little baws domo for my keys

Post by **A112H** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:33 pm

Where did you get the tow hook/strap from webby? I have been looking for one for ages

webby · Post by **webby** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:51 pm

Bought it off a guy on JDMST. Technically it's not a tow hook/strap, it's an "oh shit" handle from a Japanese bus. A copy thereof at any rate

Post by **A112H** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:54 pm

Looks good anyway. I will find one oneday

EDIT: found some for sale

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JDM-drift-ri ... 20badbb0d3

webby · Post by **webby** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:19 pm

I have just under 9 weeks to get this done and on the road, as I intend on spectating at the October drift matsuri at Queensland Raceway.
I need to do suspension, brakes, balljoints, tie rods, shortened steering knuckles, new clutch cable, 4.6's, a pair of 8's with 195/60's for the rear, 185/55 595's for the front and rego and I should be right to go.

Post by **75wagon** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:32 pm

Is this your Garage?

Dave...

webby · Post by **webby** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:44 pm

Unfortunately, yes. I had a shed/lean-to/thing, but it blew over when we had a big windstorm a couple weeks back so everything's out in the weather

webby · Post by **webby** » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:09 pm

Question: are Sigma and Scorpion brake calipers the same/interchangeable? Turns out you can get decent pads for the Sigma calipers but not Scorpion ones.

webby · Post by **webby** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:59 am

picking up my diff centre from the wreckers later on today. Not 100% sure what ratio (it's from a 2WD 4G62 manual L300, anyone?) but if it's shorter than the standard ratio then I'm happy

GB_BB4C · Post by **GB_BB4C** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:01 pm

webby wrote:picking up my diff centre from the wreckers later on today. Not 100% sure what ratio (it's from a 2WD 4G62 manual L300, anyone?) but if it's shorter than the standard ratio then I'm happy

4.6:1 is the diff ratio for the L300.

webby · Post by **webby** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:32 pm

cool stuff.

I'm gonna assume the centres are a reasonably straight swap, obviously the tailshaft flange will be different but everything else'll be the same/similar, yes?

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