little hulk

[amgis_obrut]

The colour is Panama green
The weight is a good one .
On the original NSW rego paper it says 825kg
When I weighed it back in 1992 stock as , full of fuel (45lts) it weighed 846kg
With the astron turbo , sigma struts brakes and 10" rear drums 8bolt lsd it was 930
But Qld transport claim it weighs 795 ?
But either way we're going of the blue plate that already covers it for a 2.6 lt turbo so as long as I make all parts to Oem std it will pass easy
Cheers stealth

Light little bugger, luckily it was engineered with the 2.6 Im guessing it was done a long time ago ?? Cars that were engineered prior to the original NCOP regs are in demand as they were usually a little wilder


Current NCOP is more relaxed regarding capacity to weight regs, though my engineer still wont let me turbo the 351 in my Sigma but he'll pass an LX Torana with a turbo Windsor that were currently building, funny thing is a 2.6 auto GH SE is heavier than a V8 LX lol

[stealth]

Ill get some pics going soon
Yeah she is a light car but I don't think it will stay light with all the gear going in
Wouldn't be shocked to see well over 1000kg in the end
Hope not but whatever
Cheers stealth

[Scorpma82]

Even if it were 1100kgs.....still much lighter than the modern car with a similar size engine........eg a 3L V6 camry weighs in at about 1500kgs

[stealth]

So the engine fits ok !

The engine mounts home made of course

[amgis_obrut]

Fits well as far as width goes, length on the other hand looks to be a problem lol, sure you have it sorted though

1000-1100kg is still a light weight and will motivate well with the V6
My Sigma gained 100kg with the V8, big cast FMX auto and a BTR78 diff (not that much really), I don't know what it weighs now with alloy heads, alloy diff, and the removal of body deadener and other useless stuff id imagine it would be back around 1180-1200kg

I've been waiting for someone to do a conversion like yours so i'll be watching this thread

[stealth]

Its tight both ways really , its going to be fun getting pipes on the drivers side with the steering box and booster
Length ways is set again by the drag link and I know that height wise its going to be nearly touching the bonnet
The firewall mods are to accommodate the cas sensor and water in and out , and air con unit on the inside
But for now I will make a crossmember for the gearbox then start on the pipes
Cheers stealth

[stealth]

So heres a couple more happy snaps

[JimmyG]

Got some work to do!

Looking good though.

[Scorpma82]

I wonder if all this fabrication is needed in a Sigma ?

[stealth]

Lets be honest , im probably doing it the hard way but its the way I roll !
But only one way to prove the v6 , and remember that the la is the smallest engine bay out of the range
And theres only one way to find out if thay fit a sigma , I reckon just as much work without the firewall mod maybe but you would still have to do tunnel
And I dont reckon anyone is gunna try due to cost of the conversion
Cheers stealth

[stealth]

I wonder if all this fabrication is needed in a Sigma ?

the way that im doing my conversion, when finished it will be right and work nicely
Im trying to get the best possible weight distribution and still be able to pull full lock , big brakes a proper lsd , decent size rubber and air con , most people going of what i have seen throw a engine in and call it done
I will spend a enormous amount of time getting these things correct , as I have already had 6g74 in the car and didnt fit real well at all which lead to the last 13 years in the shed while I had a rethink
Love or hate it , I reckon it will be the only one for a while
Like a mythical deep sea unicorn than feeds on unobtainium !
Cheers stealth

[Scorpma82]

If anyone hates it....they are simply not a car enthusiast

Far too many people slag off a car because of the badge it wears, not for the work that's gone into it

[amgis_obrut]

I wonder if all this fabrication is needed in a Sigma ?

From what im aware auto tunnels are slightly bigger ??
I had no troubles fitting a 351 Cleveland and auto in a GH, tunnel needed a slight massage with a BFH but there would now be enough room to fit a 4 speed auto
I couldn't tell you if the V6 cooling pipes would work without firewall mods, can these be re routed with AN fittings/hose ?? but the sigma bay would be a fair bit longer than a little LA

[JimmyG]

Might be well worth sorting out your hydraulic clutch setup/ pedal box while you have easy access vir that nice big hole. The joy of spending hours upside down under the dash with your ribs being crushed on the sill is...........Well lets just stay it's taxing at best. Then again I might just be soft.

[stealth]

Might be well worth sorting out your hydraulic clutch setup/ pedal box while you have easy access vir that nice big hole. The joy of spending hours upside down under the dash with your ribs being crushed on the sill is...........Well lets just stay it's taxing at best. Then again I might just be soft.

Thats funny yes your a little soft champ , but at the same time so am I
I get paid to do that so when it comes to my car , yes that is the main reason for such a large cut out and its easier to fix a large section
So I can sort the hyd clutch,and the reverse watering system and pipes and air con
Its much easier when you can see what your doing with you arse pointing down thats for sure
And yes amgis obrut you probably get away with it in a bigger engine bay , but I am going to make a new housing to suit the room that I have , and thay are a reverse thermostate set up like on the 4g63bt
Witch I think is a pain in the arse!
Cheers stealth

[Scorpma82]

"Current NCOP is more relaxed regarding capacity to weight regs, though my engineer still wont let me turbo the 351 in my Sigma but he'll pass an LX Torana with a turbo Windsor that were currently building, funny thing is a 2.6 auto GH SE is heavier than a V8 LX lol"

I've read that quote over and over again (thinking im reading it wrong) and I now have to ask


What has convinced you to drop a Windsor into an LX Torana????

[amgis_obrut]

its actually an aftermarket engine based on the Windsor so its not really a Ford engine

Anyhow the owner likes both the Windsor and the LX Torana and wanted to combine the two in what were hoping will be an 8 second street car
The owner purchased an aspirated 430+cube Windsor based engine that made just over 1000hp with 13.5 comp and alcohol fuel, not very streetable !
Engine has had the comp reduced (amongst other things) and a custom Vortech blower added and will now run E85, should make around 1400-1500hp and be reasonably streetable

[stealth]

So I just got quoted $ 5000 to do the wiring , supply computer and tune
What are peoples thoughts on that
Cheers stealth

[JimmyG]

What ECU?

$2.5k ECU + Loom (Haltech ps1000)
$1k Wire in + sensors
$800 Tune
$500 Random shit that always happends that you could never see coming

$4800

Wee bit high but sounds about right.

[amgis_obrut]

So I just got quoted $ 5000 to do the wiring , supply computer and tune
What are peoples thoughts on that
Cheers stealth

yeah that's crazy

My entire EFI and ignition setup was around the 4k mark that's manifold, injectors, pumps, Microtech lt16 ecu, 8 ls2 coils, crank trigger etc

The ps1000 is sub 2k now with a wiring harness, the new Elite 1500 is $2200 with a harness and should be configured to suit most of your oem sensors
Those prices are direct from Haltech so you should be able to get the cheaper off Dale @ castle hill exhaust, he's the no1 Haltech dealer in aus (maybe in the universe)

Dale tuned my car and was $400

You should be able to wire it up yourself, its pretty easy once you get started

[simon]

I bought a microtech LT9c with harness for $795. I wired it myself ( I know absolutely nothing about computers but it is running ) just needs to be tuned. The bloke at microtech thought that if I took the car to Newcastle I SHOULD be able to have the ecu supplied,fitted and tuned for around $2000
Simon

[orangelancer]

same as my micro-tech. I'm running an lt9c with ls2 coils, factory 4g63 na injectors, factory cas and a map sensor. as for pumps im using a carter p4070 gold and bosch 044. Bosch 044 sits in the hatch and is a bit noisy but when you are driving you can't really hear it. It was tuned by Injction Perfection in Bankstown. Highly recommend his work.

Also would the rocker cover on the right hand side of the engine (the one with no writing) fit the left hand side? I'm using a Hyundai G4cp rocker cover in mine as it doesn't say Mitsubishi. Just says DOHC 16V

[orangelancer]

Just realized rocker cover's aren't interchangeable as you wouldn't be able to fill oil

[stealth]

Ok the quote is for
A haltech elite 1500 ,6 bosch injectors a full wiring loom, fuel pump , electronic turbo timer and sensors for 3bar boost as I specified and the tune
So a reasonable price I thought
But as old mate said I should do it myself so
There just supplying the parts at this stage

Also going to make a g /box x member tonight , might be an all nighter but it will be finished tomorrow , with pics coming as I go
Cheers stealth

[stealth]

Wasnt that later night after all





Thought I'd use all 3 factory bolt holes

So theres some pics nothing special, spose I should bolt it up but I might send it for powder coating first
Cheers stealth

[stealth]

So with a hole week of not being able to post anything, gave me time make more parts exhuast flanges , and a start on extractors , started sorting the water manifold to
Any one got a pair of TdO4 20 g turbos thay want to sell ?
Cheers stealth

[amgis_obrut]

Wasnt that later night after all

pretty

[JimmyG]

Don't go twin turbo! Some much pipe work, IC fab, oil lines water lines and shit to go wrong. Go a cross over pipe and use some of that epic space at the front to go a GT40.

[stealth]

Thanks amgis obrut,
And jimmy dont stress I dont know yet , I was just going to have a look at twins
I reckon its neater , yeah way more fab work but im a fabricator the only issue is room
There really is very little room for much at all
I can say just from the time ive already put in theres not enough room for decent extractors but I will do what I can with very little to work with
I have taken it to work today to put it on the set up pad , get some corner weights to work out where to put the heavier bits and finally measure steering angles , ive been meaning to do this for years
Cheers stealth

[stealth]

So corner weights came out ok , still only weights 832 kg But it is still quite bare , no interior and so on !
Putting it on the suspension dyno and checking the front and rear geometry was a terrible idea !
Now I have to decide whether to reinvent the wheel or just leave it
Cheers stealth