i know its been covered (too a degree) already but i just want a definitive parts list on what i need to buy to swap sigma lower control arms into my LB lancer.
a parts list and what model sigma they are all out of would be ideal
cheers..
lower control arms
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astronturbo77
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Re: lower control arms
as far as i know sigma gh ge lca's are the same length as lancer ones... why do you want the extra lenght?
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Re: lower control arms
i think i have gk ones..
its for negative camber for a rally car.. still not sure if its gonna be too much camber though
its for negative camber for a rally car.. still not sure if its gonna be too much camber though
Re: lower control arms
Still not 100% sure on this.. Anyone know?
Re: lower control arms
Use GJ on lower control arms plus the bolt that attaches it to the crossmember (ie the pivot bolt).
The Sigma LCA has a bush with a smaller hole in it than the Lancer one.
Cut off the Lancer "pivot bolt" (that went through the bush in the LCA) from the retaining plate.
Drill a hole the centre of the plate the same diameter as the Sigma pivot bolt.
Use the Sigma ball joints but use the Lancer steering arms/lower strut mounts.
Refit the retaining plate to the crossmember.
Insert LCA and fit Sigma pivot bolt (from the rear) and fit nut (don't tighten).
Connect strut, radius rod, etc.
Let car down onto wheels THEN tighten the nut on the pivot bolt.
cheers
Gaz
The Sigma LCA has a bush with a smaller hole in it than the Lancer one.
Cut off the Lancer "pivot bolt" (that went through the bush in the LCA) from the retaining plate.
Drill a hole the centre of the plate the same diameter as the Sigma pivot bolt.
Use the Sigma ball joints but use the Lancer steering arms/lower strut mounts.
Refit the retaining plate to the crossmember.
Insert LCA and fit Sigma pivot bolt (from the rear) and fit nut (don't tighten).
Connect strut, radius rod, etc.
Let car down onto wheels THEN tighten the nut on the pivot bolt.
cheers
Gaz
Race car '72 GA Galant - aka Morgan (here now!)
Road car '73 GB Galant - completely stock and original
2nd car '80 LC Lancer Hatch - 4G54 EFI
Road car '73 GB Galant - completely stock and original
2nd car '80 LC Lancer Hatch - 4G54 EFI
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Rally_2.6LC
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Re: lower control arms
I wanted longer LCA too, I used Starion LCA, bush and ball joint onto my GH struts.
Sway bar and radius rod line up and gave me an extra 1.5-2 inch on the lancer ones.
I will say this though......the car has not run yet, test day is on Sunday at a motorkhana....its the entire car test day lol.
Will let you know how it goes.
Matt
Sway bar and radius rod line up and gave me an extra 1.5-2 inch on the lancer ones.
I will say this though......the car has not run yet, test day is on Sunday at a motorkhana....its the entire car test day lol.
Will let you know how it goes.
Matt
'75 GC daily (slowly dying)
'80 LC 2.6L rally car (generally something broken until 2 weeks before an event)
'71 GA 2.6 Turbo project (i only wanted the diff and got another project)
^This side up^
Formely "Matt"
'80 LC 2.6L rally car (generally something broken until 2 weeks before an event)
'71 GA 2.6 Turbo project (i only wanted the diff and got another project)
^This side up^
Formely "Matt"
Re: lower control arms
i ended up just getting adjustable strut top mounts, seemed the easier option..
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Rally_2.6LC
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Re: lower control arms
Awesome...where did you get those from?
When I put my LC on the ground it is now running some serious neg camber (bit much for tally, probably around 2.5-3 degree at a guess) so looking for strut tops to bring them back a little.
Cheers Matt
When I put my LC on the ground it is now running some serious neg camber (bit much for tally, probably around 2.5-3 degree at a guess) so looking for strut tops to bring them back a little.
Cheers Matt
'75 GC daily (slowly dying)
'80 LC 2.6L rally car (generally something broken until 2 weeks before an event)
'71 GA 2.6 Turbo project (i only wanted the diff and got another project)
^This side up^
Formely "Matt"
'80 LC 2.6L rally car (generally something broken until 2 weeks before an event)
'71 GA 2.6 Turbo project (i only wanted the diff and got another project)
^This side up^
Formely "Matt"
Re: lower control arms
i've got K-mac strut tops in my LC running GK struts and LCA. Camber and caster adjustable. 
'79 LC Lancer injected 2.6 (project)
'00 Subaru Liberty RX2.5 (daily)
'00 Subaru Liberty RX2.5 (daily)
Re: lower control arms
I just got universal ones off eBay, they were $100.. The k-Mac ones were $600 ha ha
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Rally_2.6LC
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Re: lower control arms
Just FYI, the starion LCA gave me 2.8 degrees and 3.2 degrees neg camber (driver, passenger)
Wouldnt mind a link to those generic ones you bought as I want to turn mine back to around 2 degrees
Cheers Matt
Wouldnt mind a link to those generic ones you bought as I want to turn mine back to around 2 degrees
Cheers Matt
'75 GC daily (slowly dying)
'80 LC 2.6L rally car (generally something broken until 2 weeks before an event)
'71 GA 2.6 Turbo project (i only wanted the diff and got another project)
^This side up^
Formely "Matt"
'80 LC 2.6L rally car (generally something broken until 2 weeks before an event)
'71 GA 2.6 Turbo project (i only wanted the diff and got another project)
^This side up^
Formely "Matt"
Re: lower control arms
I can't find a link on eBay to give you sorry, I just searched for universal strut or camber tops..
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Superscan811
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Re: lower control arms
$100 Universal Camber Adjustment Plates on Ebay.
A bit of work involved to fit them, and the shipping on 1 item is $40 (but only $6 for each additional set).
Have seen the use of a pair of thrust bearings to greatly increase the life of the pillow ball in the strut tops. Again, a fair bit of work required but not particularly difficult.
I'd at least look at using a high density nylon bush to help (a little) with the sudden high shock loads.
Cheers.
A bit of work involved to fit them, and the shipping on 1 item is $40 (but only $6 for each additional set).
Have seen the use of a pair of thrust bearings to greatly increase the life of the pillow ball in the strut tops. Again, a fair bit of work required but not particularly difficult.
I'd at least look at using a high density nylon bush to help (a little) with the sudden high shock loads.
Cheers.
Re: lower control arms
They are the ones I got.. Cheers!
I haven't fitted them yet..
I haven't fitted them yet..
Re: lower control arms
I am going through this conversion now.
The arms are about 4cm conger. Change the inner bushes with the new super pro ones but leave the centre steel sleeve out. Then the lancer pins fit.
I am using sigma struts so I am keeping the sigma steering arms on.
But I have a question, the sigma steering arms seem to be offset to take away negative camber, so are there sigma steering arms that are not offset? I am looking for as much negative as I can.
I hope to have the car back on the ground today.
The arms are about 4cm conger. Change the inner bushes with the new super pro ones but leave the centre steel sleeve out. Then the lancer pins fit.
I am using sigma struts so I am keeping the sigma steering arms on.
But I have a question, the sigma steering arms seem to be offset to take away negative camber, so are there sigma steering arms that are not offset? I am looking for as much negative as I can.
I hope to have the car back on the ground today.
Re: lower control arms
it is some time since I did mine, I think you put the center sleeve in the bush and use a GH or GE bolt. there are a few different strut bottoms/steering arms. I think they are numbered 1 to 5 with an L or R
simon
simon
