Hi all,
Has anyone here (probably more so the circuit/rally racing guys) used a spherical bearing (instead of the rubber or nolathane bushes) in the front lower control arms?
When looking at setting up the front end of my LC Lancer (with Sigma Lower Control Arms) ..... the inner bush is going through "sheer hell" when the suspension is moved up and down (due to the poor geometry of the standard "road car setup") .... a spherical bearing would fix this nicely !!
Lindsay
Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
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Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
A friend of mine has used spherical bearings on his lower control arms in his Datto rally car for years. Also they are made so that the length can be easily adjusted to give you more camber adjustment.
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Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
Thanks Panda,
I presume that he is using a "rod end" with a male thread and modded the arms with a threaded insert for adjustment of length ? I'd like to avoid this and stick with the standard arm as much as possible (but will resort to this if I run out of ideas/options)
Lindsay
I presume that he is using a "rod end" with a male thread and modded the arms with a threaded insert for adjustment of length ? I'd like to avoid this and stick with the standard arm as much as possible (but will resort to this if I run out of ideas/options)
Lindsay
Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
Correct
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Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
dude this is right up my ally
yes you can use a rose joint
get one with male end 16mm with fine thread 1mm buy the most expensive one
that you can afford as the cheap ones are useless
and remember to check them all the time as thay dont last long
we change them and trow them away after every race meet
cheers stealth
yes you can use a rose joint
get one with male end 16mm with fine thread 1mm buy the most expensive one
that you can afford as the cheap ones are useless
and remember to check them all the time as thay dont last long
we change them and trow them away after every race meet
cheers stealth
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Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
Thanks Stealth,
But have you/anyone used a spherical bearing (like what you would use in the strut top).
It just presses into the same spot as the standard bush (but it has perfect rotation and doesn't fight against the caster bar rotation path) It is non adjustable for camber (but I've got enough of that with the strut top moved inwards and rearwards)
P.S. Did you know that you can get "rubber seals" to cover the rose joints ..... helps keep dirt out and any lube in !
Lindsay
But have you/anyone used a spherical bearing (like what you would use in the strut top).
It just presses into the same spot as the standard bush (but it has perfect rotation and doesn't fight against the caster bar rotation path) It is non adjustable for camber (but I've got enough of that with the strut top moved inwards and rearwards)
P.S. Did you know that you can get "rubber seals" to cover the rose joints ..... helps keep dirt out and any lube in !
Lindsay
Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
yes we use the press in ones on v8 suprecar lower control arm to crossmember
and thay need replacing after every event
and are highly ilegal you will get defected red sticker
cheers stealth
and thay need replacing after every event
and are highly ilegal you will get defected red sticker
cheers stealth
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Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
lancersr20 wrote: But have you/anyone used a spherical bearing (like what you would use in the strut top).
It just presses into the same spot as the standard bush
P.S. Did you know that you can get "rubber seals" to cover the rose joints ..... helps keep dirt out and any lube in !
I have made up this set up for some historic touring car guys for XY ford GT ( not quite legal for the class )stealth wrote: and are highly ilegal you will get defected red sticker
cheers stealth
and to hide the fact cut down nyothane bushs were used like seals
not quite to keep dirt out - more so to hide them
these had been fitted up more to stop the arms moving on the rubbers
the same thing was done to the caster bars as well
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Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
Hi Cheater,
I was hoping to hear from you
I think I will go for ones like you have made up for the Falcons .... feel like making up some more ? ;) I'll send you a PM and arrange to catch up to discuss ... if that's ok ?
Stealth - I asked my Engineer about this and he said it was fine and happy to "certify the car" with them !
Lindsay
I was hoping to hear from you
I think I will go for ones like you have made up for the Falcons .... feel like making up some more ? ;) I'll send you a PM and arrange to catch up to discuss ... if that's ok ?
Stealth - I asked my Engineer about this and he said it was fine and happy to "certify the car" with them !
Lindsay
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Re: Front Lower Control Arm - Spherical Bearing
I send you an Email with my phone and address pop in for a chatlancersr20 wrote:Hi Cheater,
I was hoping to hear from you
I think I will go for ones like you have made up for the Falcons .... feel like making up some more ? ;) I'll send you a PM and arrange to catch up to discuss ... if that's ok ?
Stealth - I asked my Engineer about this and he said it was fine and happy to "certify the car" with them !
Lindsay
I'm home most of the time as I've down scaled and moved machinery home
just waiting for the lines man to hook the 3 phase to the house
its wired from the meter box to the garage and the garage is wired all finished today
cheater