Tuff auto conversion
Tuff auto conversion
Has anyone put a strong auto behind a 4g54 narrow block? I know LPGalant has C10, what about turbo 400 etc.
Has to last longer than the time it takes to install it.
Who keeps saying jap 5 speeds are good???
Has to last longer than the time it takes to install it.
Who keeps saying jap 5 speeds are good???
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Nuthing wrong with Jap 5 speeds. In my rally Sigma I continually broke the shifter in BW boxes, then converted to Jap & problem solved, cause I'm not that easy on the shifting. ;)
I'm here for a good time, not a long time !
GJ Rally Sigma, 2.6 Haltech MPI [SOLD]
GJ Rally Sigma, 2.6 Haltech MPI [SOLD]
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lol well i wouldn't be surprised s1gmare, aren't you running 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile or am i mistaken?
RX22NV would probably be the bloke to talk to about running a tricked up auto for drag racing.
RX22NV would probably be the bloke to talk to about running a tricked up auto for drag racing.
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Jap 5 speeds. B-w 5 Speeds, Starion 5 speeds, Holden 5 speeds, ford 5 speeds. ECT
ALLLLLLLLLLLL JUNK!!!!!!!!
Baby 904's ( direct bolt in )
C10's
C4's Custom Adapter plate using a B-W Bell housing.
Power glides ( 2speed )
MRGASD or wat eva his name is making a c4 adapter plate for 350 bux.
Contact him
Scotty
ALLLLLLLLLLLL JUNK!!!!!!!!
Baby 904's ( direct bolt in )
C10's
C4's Custom Adapter plate using a B-W Bell housing.
Power glides ( 2speed )
MRGASD or wat eva his name is making a c4 adapter plate for 350 bux.
Contact him
Scotty
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2.6 Turbo 72 GA Galant on straight LPG
77 Lancer
2.6 Turbo 72 GA Galant on straight LPG
77 Lancer
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Whats a baby 904 out of and how much did it cost u?COBWBS wrote: Baby 904's ( direct bolt in )
Scotty
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
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LOL i got 1 mines a 2.6 auto narrow block. My manual coversion is going to cost me $50 box $50 flywheel $250 exedy heavy duty clutch or i can buy a complete unit for $250 with standard clutch. Only trouble im having finding is a pedal box a gh sigma 1 should be ok shouldnt it cos i found 1 of themvr4retrofit wrote:They are out of auto scorpions. They cost about as much as an auto scorpion does - ie. about $200Whats a baby 904 out of and how much did it cost u?
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
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TUFSIG wrote:i can tell sumone dont like manualsCOBWBS wrote:Jap 5 speeds. B-w 5 Speeds, Starion 5 speeds, Holden 5 speeds, ford 5 speeds. ECT
ALLLLLLLLLLLL JUNK!!!!!!!!
Baby 904's ( direct bolt in )
C10's
C4's Custom Adapter plate using a B-W Bell housing.
Power glides ( 2speed )
MRGASD or wat eva his name is making a c4 adapter plate for 350 bux.
Contact him
Scotty
5 Clutchers,
1 shifter.
1 output shaft
3 uni's
= Angry driver! LOL
Auto is king! Wil neva buy a nother manual proformance car..
904's are from Auto scorps.
Mic_77 is running 11's or 10's with 1 with no issues after changing the oil pump drive.
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77 Lancer
2.6 Turbo 72 GA Galant on straight LPG
77 Lancer
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the only time I'd ever buy an auto is if someone cuts off my left leg
..but i guess to some people "driving" is just pointing the car in the right direction.
do the sigma/scorpion 904's share anything in common with the valiant ones?
..but i guess to some people "driving" is just pointing the car in the right direction.
do the sigma/scorpion 904's share anything in common with the valiant ones?
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Frosty wrote:the only time I'd ever buy an auto is if someone cuts off my left leg
U can have a Manual when u have a Saturn LOL
Get a turbo with some nice power, and try keep a clutch under it..
Wont happen Pal.
Shaw u can spend 3000 bux on a 6 speed Manual and clutch. But for 1500 you can get a killa auto thats faster...
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2.6 Turbo 72 GA Galant on straight LPG
77 Lancer
2.6 Turbo 72 GA Galant on straight LPG
77 Lancer
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Tricked up auto's are the way to go. And for street use, once you master left foot braking, they are even further ahead.
The Sigma is the only manual car I have owned in the last 20 years.
The Sigma is the only manual car I have owned in the last 20 years.
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I've never owned or driven a saturn powered car.
mine have all been valiants or scorpions.
my '67 VC is going to be a very streetable worked 318 6bbl with a toyota W57 box and an LSD.
I personally CAN'T STAND high stall autos, they're a pain in the ass to drive and only give you about 12mpg if you take it easy!
I might not be as fast on the 1/4 mile but I'd have more fun being slow
mine have all been valiants or scorpions.
my '67 VC is going to be a very streetable worked 318 6bbl with a toyota W57 box and an LSD.
I personally CAN'T STAND high stall autos, they're a pain in the ass to drive and only give you about 12mpg if you take it easy!
I might not be as fast on the 1/4 mile but I'd have more fun being slow
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My car actually hasnt done a pass yet. I might post my gearbox blowing at heathcote on you tube. And then me pissing on the jap g/box on red tube.
Blown 2 output shafts and a diff. Both gearbox's were jap 5 speeds and standand borg warner diff.
Made 199.7kw atw, I'm sure would get in the 12's. If the driveline will hold.
I must have got the chinese built jap 5 speeds????
Blown 2 output shafts and a diff. Both gearbox's were jap 5 speeds and standand borg warner diff.
Made 199.7kw atw, I'm sure would get in the 12's. If the driveline will hold.
I must have got the chinese built jap 5 speeds????
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I forgot to ask, COBWBS do you know if your auto can be transbraked? sigmare doesn't think it can be.
Cheers
Cheers
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Frosty wrote:
I personally CAN'T STAND high stall autos, they're a pain in the ass to drive and only give you about 12mpg if you take it easy!
I
Ive got a 2800 stall with to4z and its not much different to a standard auto (apart from manual shifting). And as far as mileage goes it gets about 350 -400 kays out of an 80ltr tank (LPG) thrashing the arse out of it.
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S1GMARE wrote:I forgot to ask, COBWBS do you know if your auto can be transbraked? sigmare doesn't think it can be.
Cheers
Not as far as i no..
Ill make some calls because i was also looking into that for mine..
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COBWBS wrote:S1GMARE wrote:I forgot to ask, COBWBS do you know if your auto can be transbraked? sigmare doesn't think it can be.
Cheers
Not as far as i no..
Ill make some calls because i was also looking into that for mine..
You wont need a trans brake
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Alrite lawland.
If I get one I know you will ask where I got it from.
If I get one I know you will ask where I got it from.
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I have a little chuckle every time i read c9 and c10, you know these boxes don't actually exist
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1978 TE Cortina 250ci N20 C4 9"
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amgis_obrut wrote:I have a little chuckle every time i read c9 and c10, you know these boxes don't actually exist
How do you figure?
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COBWBS wrote:1978 TE Cortina 250ci N20 C4 9"
why did you quote that ??
Sigmare
Ford never made a C9 and C10 gear box and you will never find any FOA documentation on these boxes this is aussie slang for variations of the C4 try and find parts for these from TCI B&M etc
theres 3 (excluding the C5) variations of the C4
Early case fill
Late case fill
Pan fill
Early C4 has stepped case where the bell joins, bell bolts to pump, dip stick enters the case, 24 spline input shaft and a tube type breather that runs over the top of the servo housing, this is the easiest way to id a 24 spline C4
Late medium duty C4 has stepped case like early C4 bell bolts to pump, is also case fill but has the breather in the extension housing it also has a 26 spline input shaft
Heavy duty C4 has a sloped case where the bell joins,bell bolt to case, dip stick enters the pan has breather in extension housing and 26 spline input shaft
Bell off case fill will fit pan fill but not the other way
C5 is the only variant of the C4 thats actually called something other that a C4
It looks like a late case fill C4 but has a deeper pan and a lock up converter
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Lp the term C9 and C10 only exist in aus its in reference to years of variant design but ONLY IN AUS and not by FOA
C = decade 60
4 = 64 first design of C4 series
9 = 69
10 = 70
But the C5 is the newest variant of the C4 and going of the Aussie system that would make it a 1965 design
C6 is a totally different and shares nothing with the C4 its a single piece bell/case has 31 spline input shaft and is massive compared to the C4
list of ford Transmissions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_transmissions
C = decade 60
4 = 64 first design of C4 series
9 = 69
10 = 70
But the C5 is the newest variant of the C4 and going of the Aussie system that would make it a 1965 design
C6 is a totally different and shares nothing with the C4 its a single piece bell/case has 31 spline input shaft and is massive compared to the C4
list of ford Transmissions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_transmissions
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lpgalant wrote:when mine was built by bbe, he classes mine as a c10, not c4
but in reality its a pan fill c4 hey
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You forgot there is also a C3.
Who needs a transbrake when you can get a 1.5 60ft of the foot brake using a baby 904.
The best C4 to use was out of the 6 cylinder xd's.
cheers Mic
Who needs a transbrake when you can get a 1.5 60ft of the foot brake using a baby 904.
The best C4 to use was out of the 6 cylinder xd's.
cheers Mic
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yeah i wasnt going to get into the C3 as its a completely different box again shares nothing with the C4, has no external servo pistons and usually found behind a pinto enginemic_77 wrote:You forgot there is also a C3.
Who needs a transbrake when you can get a 1.5 60ft of the foot brake using a baby 904.
The best C4 to use was out of the 6 cylinder xd's.
cheers Mic
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lpgalant wrote:yes u r right lol.
lol sorry dude i can be funny about this subject at times, i like to call a spade a spade
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hey amgis
isn't a spade just a shovel with a fancy name ?
lol
cheers stealth
isn't a spade just a shovel with a fancy name ?
lol
cheers stealth
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stop splitting hairs and go and build that blow through turbo setstealth wrote:hey amgis
isn't a spade just a shovel with a fancy name ?
lol
cheers stealth
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1300 installed for a transbrake on baby 904 S1GMARE!
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COBWBS wrote:1300 installed for a transbrake on baby 904 S1GMARE!
If the ring gear is getting minced without the transbrake i'd love to see what would happen with it .. ... ....