4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
Hi all looking for a jap 5 speed any1 got suggestions where i shuld be looking n roughly how much they worth? im going to turbo the 2.6 prbly be putting out 150-200 kw at the treads so dnt think the standard 5 speed will hold up tell me wat u guys think
also wondering wat lsd options do i have are they very strong or shuld i jus mini spool it?
also wondering wat lsd options do i have are they very strong or shuld i jus mini spool it?
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The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
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Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
Depends on how you drive it. There are guys on the forum with 200+ still using the Jap 5 speed. To upgrade is big bikkies
Dont forget when looking for a Jap that there are two belhousing stud pattens. Measure the 2 lower/outer bellhousing bolt holes on the motor and get a gearbox to match. Will be either 310mm or 330mm.
Dont forget when looking for a Jap that there are two belhousing stud pattens. Measure the 2 lower/outer bellhousing bolt holes on the motor and get a gearbox to match. Will be either 310mm or 330mm.
Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
im sure the jap 5 speed will hold up but i was wondering will the standard 5 speed i do kinda thrash my cars tho so yeh prbly go the jap box but i got no idea where to get 1
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
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Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
The wreckers is always a good start? (look for one with the lowest number on the odo too )
From your other thread, you have an auto yeah? you'll need a gearbox thats is behind a 2lt astron, & while your there, grab the flywheel too, probably wise to also grab the speedo cable & the front bit of the tail shaft that goes into the gear box. you may or may not find that you will need a different length tail shaft (theres too many variable to say.)
Diff? you should already have a 10-bolt diff in there being a scorp, weld it up, should last a while.
Nick.
PS: oh... 'jap' box's have reverse bottom right on the H, if its top left, run like hell
From your other thread, you have an auto yeah? you'll need a gearbox thats is behind a 2lt astron, & while your there, grab the flywheel too, probably wise to also grab the speedo cable & the front bit of the tail shaft that goes into the gear box. you may or may not find that you will need a different length tail shaft (theres too many variable to say.)
Diff? you should already have a 10-bolt diff in there being a scorp, weld it up, should last a while.
Nick.
PS: oh... 'jap' box's have reverse bottom right on the H, if its top left, run like hell
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Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
The "jap" 5 speeds are the most common in the sigmas and scorpions. I think they're called the KM132
just about any manual sigma or scorpion from about 1980 onwards should have the jap 5 speed.
and some of the early 1978 2.0L sigmas were jap 5spd as well.
like 81GL said, you want the one where reverse gear is located on the rear right. like this
1 3 5 <<JAP 5 SPD
2 4 R
just about any manual sigma or scorpion from about 1980 onwards should have the jap 5 speed.
and some of the early 1978 2.0L sigmas were jap 5spd as well.
like 81GL said, you want the one where reverse gear is located on the rear right. like this
1 3 5 <<JAP 5 SPD
2 4 R
Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
Cool thnx guys i thort they were rare how much they usually go for?
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
you can probably get a pranged car with a good 5 speed for $100 and remove it yourself. i've done that a few times coz it's cheaper than buying parts already removed.
or you could check pick-a-part and those kinda places. as well as ebay and the trading post.
things like that.
or you could check pick-a-part and those kinda places. as well as ebay and the trading post.
things like that.
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Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
The Borg Warner boxes have a separate bellhousing, where the Jap has the bellhousing cast as part of the caseing.
Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
Ok guys found a place that stocks and recos them whole unit for $880 including reco number below for anyone interested.
a qs tho do i need the 1 with the longer shaft or not? Apparantly theres a 2 inch difference a speedy response would be awesome as i plan on doing the conversion this weekend and he needs time to reco the box thnx guys.
The gearbox Factory
(02)97721642
28 queen st Revesby nsw
a qs tho do i need the 1 with the longer shaft or not? Apparantly theres a 2 inch difference a speedy response would be awesome as i plan on doing the conversion this weekend and he needs time to reco the box thnx guys.
The gearbox Factory
(02)97721642
28 queen st Revesby nsw
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
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Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
WAIT...
$880 sounds a bit steep unless that is an outright purchase (ie: no changeover gearbox required)
I had a Starion turbo gearbox reconditioned (jap wide block but stronger internals than the Scorp/Sigma) for $600 and it was a complete rebuild.
If the gearbox is in reasonable condition it's around $300-$400.
The GE and GH Scorps have the shorter gearboxes, GJ onwards have the longer boxes.
Cheers.
$880 sounds a bit steep unless that is an outright purchase (ie: no changeover gearbox required)
I had a Starion turbo gearbox reconditioned (jap wide block but stronger internals than the Scorp/Sigma) for $600 and it was a complete rebuild.
If the gearbox is in reasonable condition it's around $300-$400.
The GE and GH Scorps have the shorter gearboxes, GJ onwards have the longer boxes.
Cheers.
Last edited by Superscan811 on Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
yeh thats an outright purchase including the shifter plus reco i might enquire as to if they do want my auto box see if i can get it cheaper.
Does anyone know if the manual box will fit the auto yoke?
Also im having alot of trouble finding a flywheel are there any aftermarket options or is there one from another car that will fit with no modifications?
Does anyone know if the manual box will fit the auto yoke?
Also im having alot of trouble finding a flywheel are there any aftermarket options or is there one from another car that will fit with no modifications?
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
OMG im the luckiest guy alive found a box for $50 DELIVERED TO MY DOOR FROM 3 HOURS AWAY
Turns out the blokes sister lives a suburb over and is coming here this weekend still need a flywheel and pedal box tho BUT 50 BUX SO CHEERING
Turns out the blokes sister lives a suburb over and is coming here this weekend still need a flywheel and pedal box tho BUT 50 BUX SO CHEERING
Drive It Like You Stole It
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
The Drifter = 99 VS Ute (Kaaz 2 way LSD + 3.8 v6 on boost )
The Old Drifter = 99 S15 Spec-R (GONE )
The Project = 80 GH Scorp (shes getting there)
The Fourby = 92 4Runner (can climb yo mumma)
The Daily = 95 Camry (the gf gotta have a car too)
The Shitter = 89 Hiace (with ever panel customised)
The Untamed = 98 cbr 600 (nearly killed me twice but i still love her)
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Re: 4g54 a/t - m/t in search of jap 5 spd and diff qs?
So is your new box to suit wide or narrow block ;)