LSD in sigma

[S1GMARE]

Someone was telling me that express van lsds fit in Sigmas. Has anybodyb done this?

[webby]

Nope, they don't. They're the same unit as the Pajero LSD, and therefore somewhat too big

[stealth]

the very first model l300 4x4 van had an 8 bolt lsd 4.6/1 in the front
diff and a ten bolt rear from memory (long time ago)
and yes i have the 8 bolt put it into a la lancer housing
since then its had 4.22,3.9 and now 3.54 gears
as far as i know the second model has the ten bolt
and after that thay were the pajero style
hope this helps
cheers stealth

[karl_2ltgc]

[amgis_obrut]

the very first model l300 4x4 van had an 8 bolt lsd 4.6/1 in the front
diff and a ten bolt rear from memory (long time ago)
and yes i have the 8 bolt put it into a la lancer housing
since then its had 4.22,3.9 and now 3.54 gears
as far as i know the second model has the ten bolt
and after that thay were the pajero style
hope this helps
cheers stealth

The old manager of our local Mitsu dealer had a GH rally car that had a scorp diff and im sure he said it had a VR4 Galant LSD unit in it

[S1GMARE]

The old manager of our local Mitsu dealer had a GH rally car that had a scorp diff and im sure he said it had a VR4 Galant LSD unit in it[/quote]

Yeah I think those are the same a the awd magna diff. The guy at the wreckers said the centres bolt straight in.
Not sure thou, he reeked of Jack Daniels and it was only 8am.

[COBWBS]

If i had money id have a custom LSD in my car right now..

[vr4sigma]

are u guys talking crap? or is this for real!

[amgis_obrut]

are u guys talking crap? or is this for real!

i could be

[S1GMARE]

I have a mate with an awd magna, and we have been trying to talk him into letting us take the diff centre out to see if it fits.
His pretty suborn because his think now that there's no magnas, it's worth like 30 grand. Some idiot keeps telling him they're gonna be a collectors item.

[sigmare]

I have a mate with an awd magna, and we have been trying to talk him into letting us take the diff centre out to see if it fits.
His pretty suborn because his think now that there's no magnas, it's worth like 30 grand. Some idiot keeps telling him they're gonna be a collectors item.

He's right. I was at my mates resto workshop and asked him what was under the cover of a car he had in the corner, he said a genuine TP magna (GLX) and not to tell anyone.

[shuggy]

He's right. I was at my mates resto workshop and asked him what was under the cover of a car he had in the corner, he said a genuine TP magna (GLX) and not to tell anyone.

haha, puttin the goods away for storage for when we need the parts

[COBWBS]

I dont have a sigma any more..

But when i did it wasn't LSD, But u rekon a nimbus center would fit.. or a colt? Jst modify it abit and jam it in there...

[sigmare]

Interested in your nimbus lpgalant.

PM sent

[amgis_obrut]

never tried but, doesnt a lsd centre from xf or anything ford or commo lsd fit, whats the difference, both borgy, maybe axel spline yeah, but at least u can build billet axles for it, or standard whatever the centre came from shortned, resplined

sigma borgy is an 8 bolt, falc borgy is a 9 bolt and much larger than the sigma unit, 9 bolt is 25-28 spline

though the last of TF Cortina's came out with the small 8 bolt diff, still no option of an LSD but they had 2.77 gears

[unda]

there`s no ltd slip cntre that fits sraight into the sigma bw housing
if your handy you can build one
we cut the cntr housing out of a ford lsd diff made a jig then cut sigma bw axle tubes off a std sigma diff & welded and pluged them to the ford center,had the falcon axles shortened re drilled and resplined used sigma end plates & std sigma bearings and seals
wallah-- a 4.1 lsd that fits a sigma --works good to total cost was aprox 600 bucks

[Cottees]

yeah i agree cobwbs, just jam it in and fill it with that selley no more gaps so the oil doesnt piss out lol, should work a treat

Selleys No More Gaps? That wont work! You need duct tape, it'll fix anything on a car.

[COBWBS]

PM sent sigmare, if ur buying a Nimbus ill buy your sigma, is it LSD??

[COBWBS]

seams like a shit deal to me, maby ill jst give him like $186.66 INC for the car.. Payment plan ok??

[S1GMARE]

there`s no ltd slip cntre that fits sraight into the sigma bw housing
if your handy you can build one
we cut the cntr housing out of a ford lsd diff made a jig then cut sigma bw axle tubes off a std sigma diff & welded and pluged them to the ford center,had the falcon axles shortened re drilled and resplined used sigma end plates & std sigma bearings and seals
wallah-- a 4.1 lsd that fits a sigma --works good to total cost was aprox 600 bucks

Mate, I'm amazed you haven't had 1000 pm's by now. I guess even 600 bucks for an lsd is too much for some people.

[panda]

there`s no ltd slip cntre that fits sraight into the sigma bw housing
if your handy you can build one
we cut the cntr housing out of a ford lsd diff made a jig then cut sigma bw axle tubes off a std sigma diff & welded and pluged them to the ford center,had the falcon axles shortened re drilled and resplined used sigma end plates & std sigma bearings and seals
wallah-- a 4.1 lsd that fits a sigma --works good to total cost was aprox 600 bucks

Welcome to the forum mate, thats the info we need.

[COBWBS]

I got told that 9inch's are built at the BW factory in new zealand?

[www.18u]

Why not go to a scorpion diff and run a cusco lsd centre. Yahoo japan has a few on there at the moment. The other option is to steal a lsd from a small starion diff (if you can find one) it will fit with a mistu 10 bolt.
I have been looking into a evo 1-3 lsd unit, as i believe they may be the right size for the job in a 10 bolt.
Here is the diff in my ex which is the same as a scorps.

And here is a pic of a libero diff that a evo centre will bolt straight into.

[TR11KY]

im afraid im committed to a hilux diff conversion now. I want the hilux one anyway for the ease of changing centres and ratios.

[ExRallySig]

Is great to see there are still people out there Rallying Sigmas. There is a solution to LSD in Sigma. All you need is Rear Drive '83ish Turbo Lancer (there were lots in New Zealand) Rear axle assembly and pretty much bolt it straight under a GJ or K. If you have a GH, you need a GH Scorp rear axle assembly, swap all the bits across then bolt it on. You will also need to swap to Jap rear flange for tail shaft. Have a GH version sitting on my back verandah. You also end up with vented rear disk brakes as a bonus.

[ExRallySig]

Turbo Lancer diff is a 10 bolt housing, ratio 3.9 : 1. Brake balance works ok with standard sigma brake set up. You also need to get the handbrake cables etc which are same as scorp.

[www.18u]

ExRally,
The 1st pic i posted is a diff out of a lancer ex. I have written this a few times and people don't seem to take notice. It is nice to see that someone else can back up my opinion (thanks)

[vr4sigma]

does anyone know were i can source one of these diffs in australia ?

[woops]

And also what is required to fit them into a scorpion diff. Is it just unbolt the open centre on bolt in the LSD or does it require the axles, bearings etc to be changed over? I couldn't find anything of real detail with google at all. I'm sure if it was just the diff centre to be bolted in people here would be happy to change to the scorp diffs.

I couldn't see much on trademe either apart from a complete lancer with the diff. Pity there are almost no NZ members on here. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 643270.htm

[www.18u]

A late model scorpion diff is a 10 bolt, and a EX lancer lsd is a 10 bolt also. Spline count will be the same and it is just the tailshaft flange that EXRallySigma mentioned. If you start to search on trademe, your chasing a the gsr turbo version as it was the one with the lsd.

All this talk is making my EX rare in aus