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4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:14 am
by d3v147
After my turbo conversion, I am having trouble with my 'Heavy Duty' RPM clutch not handling the power. It tends to slip in 3rd and 4th gear at about 4000 RPM and up. I am wondering if a Starion/Conquest clutch may fit, such as the one on ebay here:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUTOCOM-Stag ... 90e&_uhb=1

Also would this later allow for an RX7 gearbox upgrade? I have a feeling that once the clutch stops slipping I will have trouble with the rest of the drivetrain.

Also I am on the hunt for the holy B2600 bellhousing. It would be excellent if someone has one in tasmania.

Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:13 pm
by Sigmaproject
When I had the boost up a notch I was also getting clutch slip in 4th going up my favourite hill. Now that I am back to standard boost ..no more issues.
I have a stock pressure plate with 30% more clamping pressure + Starion turbo clutch plate.

Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:19 pm
by Sigmaproject
That looks like amazing value..even with posting from the US

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Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:03 pm
by Superscan811
Just be careful, the US Starions have 2 different sizes of clutches and pressure plates for their wide block 4G54's. I found out the hard way after purchasing 2 of them.

As for the gearbox, how much torque and where is it in the RPM range?

The Starion or Triton gearbox will be much stronger than either a BW or the Sigma/Scorp Jap 5 speed and will bolt straight on.

Depending on your budget NPC Clutches in Brisbane do a clutch/lightened flywheel package which will hold. (My brother's business makes the flywheels and their multi-plate clutches)

Here is the link to the specs.

Cheers.

Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:15 pm
by Scorpma82
Does the Station/Triton g/box have the same ratios as the jap 5 speed in the Sigma????

Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:52 am
by d3v147
Thanks for all the suggestions!

I'd love to figure out which year US G54Bs have compatible flywheels.

I think the problem I have been having is oil leaking into the clutch from the sump. Hopefully I can get that fixed and the clutch will recover/dry out.

It's easier for me to get an RX7 box than a Triton/Starion one. I just need to find the B2600 bellhousing!

Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:56 pm
by cheaterparts
Scorpma82 wrote:Does the Station/Triton g/box have the same ratios as the jap 5 speed in the Sigma????
Starion and jap 5 speed have the same ratios but the staz has taper rollers on the lay shaft and wider gears to handle more torque

Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:13 am
by d3v147
Getting closer the getting the Sigma back on the road and I remeber that last time I drove it I was playing with an EBC and the clutch was slipping up steep hills in 4th everywhere. I think I need to dive in and take the risk. With the two different type starion clutches, where is the difference? Is there a measurement I can get the seller to make? Could a little machining do away with the problem?

Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:02 pm
by d3v147
I've done a little bit of research and there appear to be 2 different diameters and every other property is the same. The two diameters are

Disc Outer Diameter: 9 7/16" = 239.7125 millimeters
Disc Outer Diameter: 8 13/16" = 223.8375 millimeters

This is actually a triton 4g64 flywheel but it's the same
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So to cut a long story short, this is the one!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUTOCOM-Stag ... 53f18e79f5

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Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:06 am
by d3v147
Seller cancelled the order about 10 days after I made it. Was expecting to be receiving the item not a refund. If he let me know sooner I would definitely be a lot less pissed than I am now.

I'm looking at this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EXEDY-HEAVY- ... 106423872? as it is in Australia, but I'm scared I'm just going to end up with a slipping clutch all over again.

Re: 4G54 Clutch upgrade

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:17 pm
by d3v147
NPC has quoted me $998 including GST for a flywheel and organic clutch. Apparently the use a 10" gtr sized clutch as the factory unit is just nowhere near large enough to work well without a button type clutch and horrible pedal feel. I think this is unfortunately a bit excessive for my budget at this point in time. (I don't think the motor even owes me that much!)