Scorpion Diffs
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- Sigma-Galant Police (Global Mod)
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Scorpion Diffs
OK,
I've had a read at pretty much all the threads regarding this issue and i still no clear answer!
My questions are these:
Is there a factory Scorpion LSD (live axle) available?
Is there an after market version available?
(Incase you are wondering, the ration im after is the factory 3.30 or TALLER)
I've had a read at pretty much all the threads regarding this issue and i still no clear answer!
My questions are these:
Is there a factory Scorpion LSD (live axle) available?
Is there an after market version available?
(Incase you are wondering, the ration im after is the factory 3.30 or TALLER)
Built with pride, Driven in anger
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Re: Scorpion Diffs
As far as I am aware there is no such thing as a factory Scorp LSD, however there are LSD's available that will fit. They are extremely rare and not easy to find. Easiest would be an EX Lancer LSD, but i have heard of Starion, Pajero and L300 LSD centres being made to fit.
If you can track down an EX Lancer rear end then they are the same as the later Scorp diffs, but with vented brakes and the LSD. Otherwise just the centre can be swapped into a Scorp diff housing. They are around 3.9:1 ratio so more work would be required if you wanted to use it with the Scorps 3.3:1 crownwheel and pinion.
I have heard of higher performance centres to suit the EX Lancer LSD, possibly either Ralliart or Cusco centres? Good luck finding one.
If you can track down an EX Lancer rear end then they are the same as the later Scorp diffs, but with vented brakes and the LSD. Otherwise just the centre can be swapped into a Scorp diff housing. They are around 3.9:1 ratio so more work would be required if you wanted to use it with the Scorps 3.3:1 crownwheel and pinion.
I have heard of higher performance centres to suit the EX Lancer LSD, possibly either Ralliart or Cusco centres? Good luck finding one.
- mrelshauno
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Re: Scorpion Diffs
I think it was only the GT Turbo EX Lancer that got LSD's. Very hard to come by and fetch good coin. I regularly see these diffs on Trademe with people asking if it is LSD. 99% of the time it isn't. I have just purchased a 10 bolt from one of these to put in my GD and hope to get an LSD one day.
Re: Scorpion Diffs
No Scorpion was LSD in Australia. GE's were a 8 bolt diff and GH onwards was a 10 bolt diff. You can get 10 bolt LS centres from EX Lancers and Starions.
Here is the one in my hardtop
Here is the one in my hardtop
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Re: Scorpion Diffs
So what ratio can you get with LSD in a Scorpion diff?
It lokos as tho i'll be going down the Skyline path
It lokos as tho i'll be going down the Skyline path
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Re: Scorpion Diffs
EX Lancer is 3.89:1 but the gear set from any 10 bolt centre will fit.
Stock Scorpions were 3.3:1
Stock Scorpions were 3.3:1
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Re: Scorpion Diffs
Hmmmm, definately soudns like a Skyline job then....It seems to suit all my needs at the cheapest price
Thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it
Thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it
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Re: Scorpion Diffs
Remember when you are looking for centres for the Skyline diff, Borg Warner 78, that the are exactly the same centre as XE-AU Fords, VL-VS Non IRS Commodores. Might be cheaper to buy a non LS Skyline diff and then chase a new centre, they are pretty cheap.
They are available in 28 or 31 spline.
If you do buy a non LS diff make sure it is a Skyline diff, the Pintara diff's were only 25 spline so a LS centre will not fit.
Cheap centre
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-pinion-lsd ... 500wt_1288
They are available in 28 or 31 spline.
If you do buy a non LS diff make sure it is a Skyline diff, the Pintara diff's were only 25 spline so a LS centre will not fit.
Cheap centre
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-pinion-lsd ... 500wt_1288
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Re: Scorpion Diffs
yeah im awawre of the BW78 diffs......i'll (most likely) go the R31 to save costs of shortening and keeping the 4stud pattern
I'm on the R31 Skyline club forum atm trying to find out if the R31 GTS bolt onto the original diff
I'm on the R31 Skyline club forum atm trying to find out if the R31 GTS bolt onto the original diff
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Re: Scorpion Diffs
Hi About an LSD centre for the Scorpian diff . Thay are as every one says hard to find. Thay are getting old so how do you go with parts ?
Bearings should be fine but what about the clutch plates can you get new ones ??
With mounting a Scorp diff in a lancer will the shocks foul on any part of the disc brake/ hand brake assembly ?
Bearings should be fine but what about the clutch plates can you get new ones ??
With mounting a Scorp diff in a lancer will the shocks foul on any part of the disc brake/ hand brake assembly ?
Re: Scorpion Diffs
Although it's been a while since the last post, I hope somebody would reply and enlighten me. First, I would like to ask if how big (7", 7.5", 8", etc.) is the LSD center that would fit the stock Scorpion Diffs? Second, this size referred to the diameter of the ring gear, right?
Thanks.
Thanks.