lightweight astrons
lightweight astrons
hi all
i have had a few people ask me about these pics so i thought
i would post them for all
cheers stealth
i have had a few people ask me about these pics so i thought
i would post them for all
cheers stealth
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Re: lightweight astrons
what have you got there Joe Knox ?stealth wrote:hi all
i have had a few people ask me about these pics so i thought
looks like a fork lift block - are they any lighter than the balance shaft motor ?
cheater
Re: lightweight astrons
its a astron 1 wideblock out of a sigma
thats has been machined to remove just about anything
thats not required it now weighs 40.4 kgs with caps
the head is a m7 magna same treatment and weighs 11.2kg complete
(std valves havent got to the titanium bits yet)
not sure what a std block weighs but i think it was around 6.5 kgs
but i will strip a block down and weigh it for the comprasion
mate the work boots are a must glad you cant see the jimmy can in
the hand
cheers stealth
thats has been machined to remove just about anything
thats not required it now weighs 40.4 kgs with caps
the head is a m7 magna same treatment and weighs 11.2kg complete
(std valves havent got to the titanium bits yet)
not sure what a std block weighs but i think it was around 6.5 kgs
but i will strip a block down and weigh it for the comprasion
mate the work boots are a must glad you cant see the jimmy can in
the hand
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Re: lightweight astrons
Looks a bit like a Canter block???
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Re: lightweight astrons
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The oil pressure sender at the rear means its not Astron 1
The oil pressure sender at the rear means its not Astron 1
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Re: lightweight astrons
I think we might have been given a bum steer about the oil pressure switch thingSigmaproject wrote:-
The oil pressure sender at the rear means its not Astron 1
see the hole forward of the oil filter that leads directly into the main oil gall, forward of that hole is the exit port for the oil pump, thats where the switch is on my turbo block
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Re: lightweight astrons
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OK, well if thats the case, then it must be one of those Local made or imported issues
The only pics I have of Astron blocks have what I assume is the sender switch just to the right of the oil filter.
And I know for sure that Astron II has the sender towards the rear on the same side. (I would take a pic of mine, but it is hidden by the wastegate.
OK, well if thats the case, then it must be one of those Local made or imported issues
The only pics I have of Astron blocks have what I assume is the sender switch just to the right of the oil filter.
And I know for sure that Astron II has the sender towards the rear on the same side. (I would take a pic of mine, but it is hidden by the wastegate.
Re: lightweight astrons
mate its a series 1 astron one out of a gk gsr
have a good look the oil pressure sender is at the front
i have three blocks like this and one like the one in your
pic and as far as i know the oil pressure sender at the back
is for fwd
doesnt really matter where oil pressure sender goes does it?
hay cheater how much does scotts block weigh ,that a bare block isnt it
anyway enjoy
cheers stealth
have a good look the oil pressure sender is at the front
i have three blocks like this and one like the one in your
pic and as far as i know the oil pressure sender at the back
is for fwd
doesnt really matter where oil pressure sender goes does it?
hay cheater how much does scotts block weigh ,that a bare block isnt it
anyway enjoy
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Re: lightweight astrons
Thats nice an all, but were do you put the balance shafts now?
Re: lightweight astrons
thats a good one
there was a whole post on that,remember we use them
on people that ask what sort of datto we are driving
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there was a whole post on that,remember we use them
on people that ask what sort of datto we are driving
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Re: lightweight astrons
its still a bare block I'll weigh itstealth wrote: hay cheater how much does scotts block weigh ,that a bare block isnt it
anyway enjoy
cheers stealth
cheater
Re: lightweight astrons
thanks mate that saves me having to strip one in any
hurry
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hurry
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Re: lightweight astrons
now a Knife edge crank gets rid of at least 2 Kgstealth wrote:it now weighs 40.4 kgs with caps
the head is a m7 magna same treatment and weighs 11.2kg complete
(std valves havent got to the titanium bits yet)
an aluminium under drive pulley and of cause a light flywheel clutch assembly
this could work out lighter than a saturn but with HP
cheater
Re: lightweight astrons
i clearly remember that the botten end was 13.8 kgs
lighter than std thats was with block,crank,pistons,crank
pulley (i use 308 romac)and flywheel
and i took 2.2kgs of the crank and i havent done the knife
edging yet that will be another 1.5 to 2 kgs
and yes thay do end up about 2.5 heaver that the saturn
as i said there more potenial as im doing it all again but with
an astron 2 narrow block
this time ill right down all the weights for posting
remembering that scotts block is bored to 92.5 yeah
and the one i got is std bore
cheers stealth
lighter than std thats was with block,crank,pistons,crank
pulley (i use 308 romac)and flywheel
and i took 2.2kgs of the crank and i havent done the knife
edging yet that will be another 1.5 to 2 kgs
and yes thay do end up about 2.5 heaver that the saturn
as i said there more potenial as im doing it all again but with
an astron 2 narrow block
this time ill right down all the weights for posting
remembering that scotts block is bored to 92.5 yeah
and the one i got is std bore
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Re: lightweight astrons
I machine my own under drive pulley from some T6 aly bar stockstealth wrote: pulley (i use 308 romac)and flywheel
going to the narrow block is better for light weight flywheel being 1 1/2
smaaler in dia
and yes scotts block is a 92.5 bore
cheater
Re: lightweight astrons
that and the fact that the g/box pattern is same as
4g63bt which is up next
and sick of have differnt patttern boxs everywhere
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4g63bt which is up next
and sick of have differnt patttern boxs everywhere
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Re: lightweight astrons
in the bin lolkarl_2ltgc wrote:Thats nice an all, but were do you put the balance shafts now?
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Re: lightweight astrons
No it doesnt matter.stealth wrote: doesnt really matter where oil pressure sender goes does it?
cheers stealth
But it is just one more piece of information in the identification of Astron blocks. I have only owned one car with an Astron I, and that was a Scorpion. It had the oil sender in the same location as the blocks in the photo' I posted. So from that I will assume that they are the japanese made Astrons.
On some Performance forums I look at form time to time, there is a number of posters that are of the opinion that the imported blocks are less prone to cracking than the local blocks.
Re: lightweight astrons
mate that wouldnt surprise me at all,as local manufactures commonly
use local products to do all casting (its part of the local content law)
and that normally means we get the same car but poorly made
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use local products to do all casting (its part of the local content law)
and that normally means we get the same car but poorly made
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