How many galants were made ?

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Re: How many galants were made ?

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webby wrote:The Axxxx chassis numbers are the Japanese ones, so they were placed on the car when it was made.
My Scorpion has A165H-xxx-xxxx if that means anything.
A165 is the model type and H means hardtop.
I am not sure about the Sigma/Scorpions but the Galants are A112V = Wagon, A112A = Sedan and A112H = Hardtop
I would assume the Sigma range is the same?
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Yeah, I figured as much.
It's a little odd how Mitsu JP classed them as a hardtop yet Mitsu Aus called them a coupe? Is it the same with the Galant hardtops, "H" designation in the Jap chassis number yet "coupe" on the Aus compliance plate?
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Nope, my compliance plate says, Galant GC Hardtop.
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Huh. Well there you go, learn something new everyday :)
I just find it a little odd is all, I mean they've a fairly square roofline and the rear windows roll down, which spells hardtop, not coupe, to me?

Anyway. Sorry for dragging this offtopic :)
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Yeah, I think the windows are the trick. If the rears roll down and they are pillarless then they are a Hardtop (GC/D Galant, XA/B/C Falcon)). If they have a pillar and the rears don't roll down they are a Coupe (LC/J Torana). If the back window lifts up it is a Hatch (LB/C Lancer, LX, UC Torana).
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jason is spot on the money right there as always, I just refer to mine as a coupe because when I say to people it's a hardtop they usually ask "what's the difference????" and I couldn't be bothered explaining it to everyone :P
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If you take a look in the galant brochure section you can see some of the US ones showing a sedan, wagon, coupe and hardtop. It you look closely you can see a very small pillar there. The coupe was the budget model and the hardtop was the highest class.
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So mine is built in feb 73 on the 14th. 41my code is GB 4 H 41 870
Whats the 870? Might have a 0 at the start of the 870. just going off memory with the code.
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I know the early Galants were A53, A55 and A57 and either Cfor the GTO and H for the 16L's Not sure on the codes for the sedans and wagons but there was an A51 in there somewhere :)
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75glnt wrote:So mine is built in feb 73 on the 14th. 41my code is GB 4 H 41 870
Whats the 870? Might have a 0 at the start of the 870. just going off memory with the code.
GB = GB series (obviously)
4 = 4 cyl auto (Manuals are GB3)
H = "High" price class (4G32 engine, I think ?)
41 = 4 door sedan

The 4 digit code is date of manufacture.
1st letter = Year (A= 1970, B = 1971, C = 1972, D = 1973, etc)
2nd letter = Month (A = Jan, B = Feb, C = Mar, etc)
Numbers = Day of month.

Your's can't be "0870" .... If it was built on the 14th Feb 1973 it will be DB14 .... but if that's the date stamped on the compliance plate, it's more likely the date the plate was fitted (rather than necessarily the date the car rolled off the line). The actual build date is what the chassic number says.
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A112H wrote:I know the early Galants were A53, A55 and A57 and either Cfor the GTO and H for the 16L's Not sure on the codes for the sedans and wagons but there was an A51 in there somewhere :)
The "A53-xxx" is the 1st-gen 16L
The "A53C-xxx" is the GTO
The "A53H-xxx" is the Hardtop

Australia never got the "A53" officially ... all our 4G32-powered 1st-gen Galants were GBs (we never got the "Galant 16L"). The JDM (and probably NZ etc ?) cars would have an A53-xxx number.

The very early (fully imported) "GA"s were actually the A51 ("Colt A1") with the 4G30 motor. All the Oz-assembled ones were GA-xxx

The coding is in the front of the factory workshop manuals.
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I know the whole gb 4h41 bit. but i have the numbers at the start as you suggested. at the end of the gbxxxx on both tag and stamp on the strut tower. It has 0870 on it. It goes as follows

GB4H41 0870 (thats stamped on the body)
On the tag it has the numbers that say it was built on the 14th feb 73.
But it also has the same code as on the strut
So it goes like this. xxx GB4H41 0870
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Actually you're right .... the full build date code is only on the plate, the stamped number on the strut tower only has the model code (GB4H41) plus the body number (0870). I hadn't looked at mine in a while !

I just went out to the shed & re-checked it ... it's full number is GB3H41 / EC26 – 5665 (this is on the plate) and the one on the strut tower is just GB3H41 – 5665. Mine's a 26/3/74 build, so relatively late for a GB.

So the full number on the build plate on yours should say GB4H41 / DB14 - 0870 ?? It would be a bit strange if the "DB14" isn't there ... unless they changed the coding part way though the run (but the Manual I got the codes from is the 1973 edition, and includes the date code, so that seems unlikely. Weird)
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Found this info in my A112/A114 service manual
Chassis number reads like this;

Car line - A11
Engine size - 2=1600, 4=1850
Body type - A= sedan, H= hardtop, V= wagon
Steering location and trans - 0= RHD 4spd manual floor shift, 1= RHD 3spd manual COLUMN shift, 2= RHD auto floor shift, 3= RHD 5spd manual floor shift, 4= LHD 5spd, 5= LHD 4spd, 6= LHD 3spd column, 7= LHD auto
Equipment level - 0= GL, 2= Deluxe, 3= Standard, 7= GS, 8= SL
The rest is the sequence number

So if your chassis number is A114H-3700001 you car would be a RHD 1850 Hardtop GS with 5spd manual and number 1 off of the line

Mine is A112H-2300982
So it is a RHD 1600 auto hardtop Standard and number 982 off of the line

The convertible is A112H-0300727
RHD 1600 4spd manual hardtop Standard and 727 off of the line

The GC hardtops only have one ID plate that was fitted in Australia and has a compliance date only, there is no mention of build date. I think the GD hardtops have two ID plates?
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:thumpsup: thats him :D
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I have 6 galants!
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I have 2 as well :P

Though Jason, I think the H in the second gen chassis codes means Hardtop as well as Coupe in other places. The only 2nd gen Hardtops we got in the US, were the 1974 cars and the high end Colt GTs through 76 came in either hardtop or Coupe. My Coupe's chassis is A112H-34-2675 and it is a LHD 1600 Coupe 4spd Manual

Now that I'm looking in my FSM, it's safe to say "H" just dictates the car universally is a 2 door, "V" still signifies it's a Wagon. Sedans on the other hand, over here at least are tricky, A112F is a base model Sedan, A112K is a Base model Sedan Auto, A115N is the High end Sedan, A115K is a High End Auto Sedan. So in the case of the Sedan, "F" and "N" signifies the trim code and "K" signifies it's a auto.

A112 = 1600
A115 = 2000

I'll scan the page from my manual in tomorrow, you find everything out about our cars (I don't know about Aussie/NZ VINs) in the VIN vs the chassis code, such as the sequence number. In which case my Coupe was #2675 off the line in Japan, March 1976 :thumpsup:.
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Nice one Tim.
On a side note, the GTO's used C as the model designation. A53C, A55C and A57C
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So what does - H41 809 represent then ....anyone?
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Why is there no mention of ga and gb hardtops ?
Thay do exist , not in aussi production but definitely in America
And the coolest looking mitsi ever made by a long shot !!!!!!!
So how many and what country's got em
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We didn't produce them like you guys did lol, all our Galants 71-76 came from Mitsubishi in Japan. :thumpsup:
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