front strut brace
- 77galantv6
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front strut brace
i am currently on the look out for a strut top brace. something like this....
i cant find one to buy but i was wondering if either someone on this site can make one (or more because i know a few people would buy them) or if someone has modified another brace off another car to suit and could give me the details.
thanks in advance,
Dean.
i cant find one to buy but i was wondering if either someone on this site can make one (or more because i know a few people would buy them) or if someone has modified another brace off another car to suit and could give me the details.
thanks in advance,
Dean.
'77 Galant V6....
1977 Galant with Commodore V6 conversion.
1977 Galant with Commodore V6 conversion.
Re: front strut brace
+1, maybe 2 ahah
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- karl_2ltgc
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Re: front strut brace
Calling cheater Parts.....
Ive been thinking bout one of these for my gc too. I would make one myself but im too spastic.
Ive been thinking bout one of these for my gc too. I would make one myself but im too spastic.
Re: front strut brace
you guys do realise these are for looks only on street cars ? and getting one made will be at least $300???
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Re: front strut brace
I've got one on the Corolla. I did notice a difference, but then again they aren't the most solid cars. I'd definently consider one for the Galant and even the Scorp after seeing the difference it made on the Corolla.
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Re: front strut brace
i was told that the added weight of the v6 compared to the saturn may have a negative effect and that a strut brace would help in rigidity (or however you spell it).....
correct me if i'm wrong....
plus, they do look excellent if made well which is a nice little bonus.
correct me if i'm wrong....
plus, they do look excellent if made well which is a nice little bonus.
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1977 Galant with Commodore V6 conversion.
1977 Galant with Commodore V6 conversion.
Re: front strut brace
the brace does add rigidity if made correctly but if your car bends with a v6 in there id not be driving it far... the weight is carried by the springs, the brace was there to stop the towers moving in and out and cracking,(and if you own a Corolla you may feel the chassis flex difference) not something galants and lancers do ON THE STREET an $80 chinese ebay one wont help either
thats why most are fitted , Im not about to try and stop anyone spending money on a fairly useless item , your choiceplus, they do look excellent if made well which is a nice little bonus.
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- EVL076
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Re: front strut brace
money well spent imo..although, i reckon it would come in cheaper than that..Torana68 wrote:you guys do realise these are for looks only on street cars ? and getting one made will be at least $300???
i will be doing hill climbs and some private track days with my Galant
and im with Karl on this one, as i too, am too spastic to make one myself
Re: front strut brace
Made of what ... gold ? It doesn't need to be adjustable or similar, just non-compressible.Torana68 wrote:getting one made will be at least $300???
The strut brace in my GB comes under the heading of "crude but effective" .... and probably cost about $10
(ignore the messy engine bay ... this is what it looked like when I bought it. It's a lot tidier now !)
- 81GL
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Re: front strut brace
Been looking at having one made for a bit now. Helps to have a good friend who is a fabricator.
Was chatting today about it & would be up for making a couple if anyone really wanted one that bad.
Only problem we can see is there is bugger all thread left on the bolts as is, so no chance of one going on under them as is: But where theres a will theres a way.
Nick.
Was chatting today about it & would be up for making a couple if anyone really wanted one that bad.
Only problem we can see is there is bugger all thread left on the bolts as is, so no chance of one going on under them as is: But where theres a will theres a way.
Nick.
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Re: front strut brace
Made of what ... gold ? It doesn't need to be adjustable or similar, just non-compressible.
The strut brace in my GB comes under the heading of "crude but effective" .... and probably cost about $10
no offence but thats butt ugly I sort of assumed the guys are after something that look good,fits correctly and has adjustable rod ends , like one you would buy (and the one in the photo) , and that wont be had for $10, good on you for doing it yourself .
The strut brace in my GB comes under the heading of "crude but effective" .... and probably cost about $10
no offence but thats butt ugly I sort of assumed the guys are after something that look good,fits correctly and has adjustable rod ends , like one you would buy (and the one in the photo) , and that wont be had for $10, good on you for doing it yourself .
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- 77galantv6
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Re: front strut brace
the one in the photo is on a galant that is for sale.
only problem is its in the phillipines - the language barrier just confuses everything
plus i figured if someone on here was able to make them i would rather buy it off them,
my 2cents
only problem is its in the phillipines - the language barrier just confuses everything
plus i figured if someone on here was able to make them i would rather buy it off them,
my 2cents
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1977 Galant with Commodore V6 conversion.
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Re: front strut brace
None taken ! I'm very much in the "function ahead of form" camp ... it doesn't need to look good, it just needs to work (and it does). Note that it's a hollow tube .... and with circular tube you don't need very thick walls, so it weighs sod-all.Torana68 wrote:no offence but thats butt ugly
That said, if I was doing it from scratch it would probably have rod ends on it, but this one was done by the previous owner.
Re: front strut brace
None taken ! I'm very much in the "function ahead of form" camp ... it doesn't need to look good, it just needs to work (and it does). Note that it's a hollow tube .... and with circular tube you don't need very thick walls, so it weighs sod-all.
extra points for doing it yourself and not just paying someone for sure!, who used to own that one? do you have a drawing of the works part?
extra points for doing it yourself and not just paying someone for sure!, who used to own that one? do you have a drawing of the works part?
"can I put Corolla pistons in my Anchortron with a Hyundai head? will it do better burnouts with 40 solex's? "...... Im so needing coffee...
Re: front strut brace
Pretty easy to fix that - just put longer bolts in your strut tops.81GL wrote: Only problem we can see is there is bugger all thread left on the bolts as is, so no chance of one going on under them
When a mate & I built one for his Datsun 1600, we used an old set of strut tops with the rubber removed (burned it out with an oxy) turned upside down as the mounting plates, then welded the brackets for the brace to them. Way easier than fabricating plates from scratch. The brace itself was a length of round tube with a nut welded into each end and rod-ends screwed into them.
Re: front strut brace
GA, GB, GC, GD, GE and GH are all the same (3bolt)
as with GJ (4bolt) onwards are all the same.
as with GJ (4bolt) onwards are all the same.
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Re: front strut brace
I don't think they even ran them. Probably doesn't improve the handling in a rally car much anyway - just helps the shell last longer !Torana68 wrote:do you have a drawing of the works part?
Re: front strut brace
GB_BB4C wrote:GA, GB, GC, GD, GE and GH are all the same (3bolt)
as with GJ (4bolt) onwards are all the same.
bolt pattern same but width???
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Re: front strut brace
Sounds easy enough, but I'm yet to find suitable bolts to have pressed back in?davetrees wrote:Pretty easy to fix that - just put longer bolts in your strut tops.
This would deffenetely be my preferred option though; even if it does mean it is no longer a bolt on item as such.
Nick.
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Re: front strut brace
There is bound to be some Jap car (Mitsubishi or otherwise) that has longer strut top bolts with the same spline on the shaft .... go hunting at a wrecker.81GL wrote:I'm yet to find suitable bolts to have pressed back in?
Alternatively, just stick some bolts through and tack weld the heads so they don't turn when you undo the nuts.
Re: front strut brace
Sigma strut tops bolt straight into a GB .... that's what my car has (Sigma strut tops on GB struts)Torana68 wrote:bolt pattern same but width???
Re: front strut brace
righto sorry dean didnt think it was going to be this much drama
if SOMEONE can trace there strut top or even better send me a strut top
and give me a measurement from centre to centre of the towers
i will make them
so someone pm me and we will go from there
cheers stealth
if SOMEONE can trace there strut top or even better send me a strut top
and give me a measurement from centre to centre of the towers
i will make them
so someone pm me and we will go from there
cheers stealth
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Re: front strut brace
davetrees wrote:Sigma strut tops bolt straight into a GB .... that's what my car has (Sigma strut tops on GB struts)Torana68 wrote:bolt pattern same but width???
... I mean width between the towers, I would be amazed if all galants are the same
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Re: front strut brace
GB have a wheel track 1305mm for sedan and wagons
GC-GD wagon same as GB at 1305
GC-GD sedan 1315 1305 and 1320 depending on model
GC-GD coupe 1305 and 1315 depending on model
So going on the info from the wheel track then there may be slight differences in the width of the strut tops but not so much that 30mm of adjustment wouldn't be able to sort out. That's only if the chassis hasn't been twisted in any accidents at all over it's years.
From the workshop manuals. Although the workshop manual also says that the GC-GD galant had a 1600 saturn and1850 and 2L astron fitted too. Anybody heard of these as factory fitted. I know the GTO came out with the 2L twin carb astron but i didn't think any of the galants did. Nice thing about the manual is that it also gives some torque curves for these engines.
GC-GD wagon same as GB at 1305
GC-GD sedan 1315 1305 and 1320 depending on model
GC-GD coupe 1305 and 1315 depending on model
So going on the info from the wheel track then there may be slight differences in the width of the strut tops but not so much that 30mm of adjustment wouldn't be able to sort out. That's only if the chassis hasn't been twisted in any accidents at all over it's years.
From the workshop manuals. Although the workshop manual also says that the GC-GD galant had a 1600 saturn and1850 and 2L astron fitted too. Anybody heard of these as factory fitted. I know the GTO came out with the 2L twin carb astron but i didn't think any of the galants did. Nice thing about the manual is that it also gives some torque curves for these engines.
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- 77galantv6
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Re: front strut brace
Stealth thats cool man. i didnt think that many people would want them either lol.
i was just throwing the offer out there to any other people that were interested in buying or giving details of "how to"....
measurement from centre to centre is 925mm (thats from the centre of the strut top)
from inside bolt to inside bolt (of each strut) is 815mm.
if you need any other info, just pm me
others correct me if my car is different
cheers,
Dean.
i was just throwing the offer out there to any other people that were interested in buying or giving details of "how to"....
measurement from centre to centre is 925mm (thats from the centre of the strut top)
from inside bolt to inside bolt (of each strut) is 815mm.
if you need any other info, just pm me
others correct me if my car is different
cheers,
Dean.
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1977 Galant with Commodore V6 conversion.
1977 Galant with Commodore V6 conversion.
Re: front strut brace
Not in Australia as far as I am aware .... but pretty much standard in Japan & the USA.woops wrote:Although the workshop manual also says that the GC-GD galant had a 1600 saturn and 1850 and 2L astron fitted too.
Are they actually Chrysler GC/GD Galant workshop manuals ? Or JDM Mitsubishi ones ?
Re: front strut brace
The are Chrysler Galant Model A112, A114 Service Manual Chassic Group with a Chrysler Australia LTD on the front cover. Although all the photo's and drawings of the cars have the jap spec tail lights and guard badges and colt galant references everywhere. There 5 sedan, 4 coupe and 3 wagon model variants listed. The GC-GD only came out with the 1600 engine in australia right?
It looks like the manuals have been made for australia with just a few pages at the start Changed.
The GB manual also gives a listing showing the conversion between the aussie GB chassis numbers and the 7 different A53 and A54 mitsubishi models but only has the 1400 and 1600 engines used. I think the GA had the 1300 and 1500 engines used but i don't think there is any other real differences.
It looks like the manuals have been made for australia with just a few pages at the start Changed.
The GB manual also gives a listing showing the conversion between the aussie GB chassis numbers and the 7 different A53 and A54 mitsubishi models but only has the 1400 and 1600 engines used. I think the GA had the 1300 and 1500 engines used but i don't think there is any other real differences.
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Re: front strut brace
no worries dean i will chase down a three bolt strut top from somewhere
and make one up then we will have to test fit to make sure its all good and
then i smash out a hole heap of them
cheers all, stealth
and make one up then we will have to test fit to make sure its all good and
then i smash out a hole heap of them
cheers all, stealth
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Re: front strut brace
is the width from strut to strut the same on GA-GD sedan/coupe/wagon?
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