drum brakes GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[crystalmeths]

Hi all just put new brake shoes on my young blokes gh wagon now I cant get the drum back on did everything by the book any help much appreciated

[75wagon]

Got a pic?
It may help?

Dave...

[geezer101]

Did you they give you over sized brake shoes? They may need to be ground down to fit... Option 2- have you wound the adjusters all the way in. It's an easy enough mistake to make. Think we've all done at least once.

[crystalmeths]

to dark to take a pic , and yeah I have wound the adjuster

[75wagon]

So the drum wont go over them for what reason exactly?
The drums diameter is too big?
or
The drums are too thick?

Or what?

BTW, you do have the handbrake off don't you?

Dave...

[crystalmeths]

Thats right Dave the drum wont go over the new brake shoes and I dont know why might have to machine the drum

[A112H]

I think you would be better sanding/machining the shoes than the drum

[75wagon]

The drums are too thick?

Sorry I just re-read this, what I meant to say was are the Brake shoes to thick to allow the brake drum to go fully on?

Are the pistons retracted in the wheel cylinders?


Dave...

[crystalmeths]

Yeah Dave I put brand new brake shoe cylinders on both sides might have to machine the drums or gat the shoes ground down

[shuggy]

is the retracted size of the cylinders the same? you havnt put wagon shoes on sedan diff have you?

[crystalmeths]

No shuggy took the old shoes down to the local brake place and made sure they are the same

[tandanus]

This has happened to me before - I just got a rasp and filed down the shoes till they fit.... Give them time to bed in.
Check the drums dont have a lip forming on them first - getting that machined out may save you the trouble.
Not much fun but....
T.

[81GL]

Check the drums dont have a lip forming on them first

Yup, check that for sure.

Replaced the shoes on my lancer a couple months back and even they took some persuasion to get the drum back on.
from memory I noticed that the mounts weren't the same & took some grinding to make it sit in the same spot - so even if the out side all looks the same, measure the mounting points and make sure they do indeed sit in the same spot

[crystalmeths]

got it all sorted took the new shoes of and compared them to the old ones , shop sold me the wrong ones took them back got the correct ones and the drum just slid straight on , just goes to show you should double check everything. thanks for everyones input cheers