paint work on my sigma

[13bsigma]

hey guys. i dont know what to do with my sigma. it has 57,000 kms on it. the car is dead straight and imaculate. the hood has a few small chips, so today i took it to my spraypainter. as it was raining. it showed up that both front gards, hood and drivers side doors had been resprayed at some stage in the cars life. and were a little faded looking. barely see it in normal weather, but noticable in wet weather. i want to keep it original. hense the decision to keep the original motor instead of twin cam 4G63 or the rotary that was originally planned. my spraypainter quoted me $300 to get the hood re sprayed, or $1300 for a full respray. i was proud to show off that the car has almost 32 year old original paint. but i guess that i cant now due to the front end pannels. .

what would you do in my position?
the $1300 spray is a full in house professional job too. i'll show you pics of my girlfriends baleno in few days as its getting its coats of paint this arvo in a hot custom pink/purple metalic

[77galantv6]

can he do my car? lol

the guy who usually does my work quoted me 4,500 for doors closed respray in the standard colour which isnt bad but 1300 is rediculous - even if it was 2000 i would still be cheering

and in regards to yours, respray in the original colour - looks standard, just mint. the way cars should be

[ken26tgalant]

mate im a spraypainter myself and if someone is charging you 4500 for a door shut respray your getting whipped.. im doing a repaint on a HR at the moment... full prime up rub down and paint and im only charging the bloke 2000...

[Shifta]

I'd jump at the respray for $1300 - we can't get anything close to that down my way! As long as you go the original color and theme, all good

[13bsigma]

going to get pics of the girlfriends baleno in 20 - 30 mins and i'll post them. he's had a few cars in fast 4s and hot 4s and street commodores. so its good work too. how ever. you'll wait a while. he said it would take him 3 to 4 weeks to do the baleno. . that was about 4 months ago lol. her car just ran out of rego lol.

can he do my car? lol

my car is straight, yours is too i suppose, and he's doing me a favour cos i know him, but i;ll ask

[Rallyant]

I have a coupe2.6galant to drop off to you for painting then Ken26tgalant!

[13bsigma]

ok. spoke to him about friends getting paint jobs. he says he quoted me $1300. he has to see the cars to give quoes. the job is a quick, cheap respray.
any damage or rust will be more.
my sigma has chrome bumpers, chrome mirrors etc so they aren't getting done.
my car is straight. dings and that are extra.
it is a tape up windows, door handles, bumpers etc job. no removing of them, or inside doors or hoods or boots.
basically a simple rub back and new coat of paint.

here are soe pics of the baleno. the pics are VERY crap and dont show the true colour, and car is dusty, so yeah. not that good for colour or seeing the lines of the car. the car had extensive hail damage and passanger door was damaged as was rear bumper. but i dont think i took pics of them.

he is busy till new year. and as i said. took 4 months to do nats car. he recons these types of jobs will take 1 week.

[13bsigma]

and by god yes she is getting new wheels. probably some gestalts virouges or something lol

[13bsigma]

and here is some pics of the chips and the paint difference

[TR11KY]

id be taking to a professional detailer first to see if theres anything you can do to revive the current paint to a match or damn close. Take a look at DRSGMA and what he's done to reatin the original paint. If you have a choice to keep the paint i'd be doing that over a cheap respray.

[DanTurboLancer]

Hey Dane, factory condition sigmas, faded or not, arent worth a great deal, so you may as well have some fun with it!


remove the bumpers, head lights and anything else you can yourself before you take it down,
it will save you money, and so he can do a proper job and get at everything.

(a bumper is only 4 bolts)

and yeah just get a decent respray in the same colour.
IMHO i think there is nothing worse than all these so called drift cars that have Metallic blue paint on the outside,
and then when you open the door or bonnet and you see faded factory white or red or something...
because they wont strip the car down and do it properly.


but thats just me...

[13bsigma]

driftforlife's car is blue and he wants to drift it hahaha. but his faddedness matches inside the doors lol.

but yeh. i know what you mean. thats why we paid a little extra to do inside the baleno plus. i like the yellow, so it is handy to ot have to do inside the doors if i respray and good point about removing stuff myself. i shall probably do that actually. thanks

[DanTurboLancer]

and its going to be a hell of alot of stuffing about, and more costly than you will expect, but if you can afford it, id go with the 13B turbo!
Not cheap, but you wont be dissapointed with the power, and it will be different

[13bsigma]

well i was thinking of going bridgeport. but that'd be very hard to not be noticed by the boys in blue lol. and hard to get engineered and registered. i'm going to have $6000 to spend on it soon. and i dont think that will cover it

[13bsigma]

you got me thinking about it again DanTurboLancer. couldn't help but look on ausrotary and guess what i found!


For sale: rx4 13b bp and rx5 5speed, comes with dizzy, pulleys, lightened flywheel/clutch, alt, carby/inlet etc
Item Condition: used but good nick
Price and price conditions: $2000-no offers
Extra Info: drop in package, motor is yellow
Pictures: its an motor
Contact Details: pm or call
Location: thomastown melb
Delivery & Conditions of Delivery: come get it.

and my sigma is yellow!!! is it fate? i should get it? i dont have money til i sell the baleno!

[DanTurboLancer]

haha the yellow motor to suit the Yellow paint sounds liek it would be good.
But id want to check how many Ks on motor, why they selling, how long have they owned it for.
Has it been built and tuned by a well known Workshop?

Every rotory ive heard of for sale usually needs a rebuild.



2K for motor Gbox.
Allow 2K for possible rebuild.
Clutch??
May have to modify Sump and oil pickup to slot into Sig to clear cross member.
Make your own Engine and Gbox mounts,
$800 for Radiator,
Does it come with engine pipes?
$1500-$2000 for Extractors and full 3" exhaust and HEAPS of mufflers to quieten the bloody thing down...
Tail shaft modified to suit Mazda Gbox.
Depending how you drive it, Diff 2-3K,
Electrical to wire it up if you cant do it yourself...

Not to mention all the other bits and pieces that will need to be done to match everything and make it work

It all adds up pretty fast.


Easiest to go 2.6 and injection and maybe a Turbo, but your call man

[77galantv6]

i'm with dan on this one

although it would be cool. i would stick with the 2.6 - so much easier to engineer too

unless you've got 25 grand to spend and then i say hell yeah, go the 13B....

keep us posted,
Dean.

[13bsigma]

your making me think about it again lol. dont worry. your not deciding for me. just re awakening the desire lol.

its carby, so no need for electrician. . maby for starter and altinator. but i can do that. i do have a small brain and can think even though i am blonde lol.

exhaust i'd assume comes with it as he says its a drop in packege, but extractors are cheap couple hundred dolllars anyway.

lets say the motor is good and comes with exhaust. .
engine mount, gearbox mounts, tail shaft, low pressure electric fuel pump, exhaust welded in, accelarator cable, speedo cable, 10 mufflers, no no better make it 15 mufflers, maby custom sump. is that it?

anyone have any ideas on prices for that stuff?

could they be done for $4000?

[DanTurboLancer]

Just like anything man,
you COULD do it for a low cost,
But it depends on the quality of job you want to do, and how reliable you want it to be!

Id be calling the guy and asking what it actually comes with.
His idea of a Drop in package, and Your idea might differ significantly!

Then Id be calling a Rotary specialist workshop and ask them some questions
That motor/Gbox package might not be as cheap you think.
They might have a package on offer that sells you a Complete set up
with everything you'll need, for slightly more and will come with warranty.
and they will do you a deal with the exhaust and tune etc...


Again if you are going to heaps of work yourself, then you can save some money there.
but coming back to how much you want to spend and how good a quality job you want.



Oh also we have a new Member who has Introduced himself
Springy1981

You may want to give him a Holler as he has a Galant with exactly what you are thinking of in it, he may shed some more light on whats involved and costs etc

[13bsigma]

yeah,. sweet i'll hit him up

thanks.

[75wagon]

Getting back to the respray...
The more things you take off the better the job. Paint always lifts at an edge, so the less edges you have where the paint stops the better.
And thinking Sigma I'd be pulling the screens out anyway as that's where they rust 1st. Am I right?

If you are serious about changing engines, why do doors closed. Do the whole thing at the same time.......

[GC75]

get me a paint job when im ready lol, everywhere ive been says round 10k-15k

[13bsigma]

i just spun a big end bearing in my baleno yesterday so that is to be fixed next. . . after i put the other baleno engine back together lol. then i can get on the the sigma engine swap. i have myself a lot of work to do. .
1 go to the beach tomorrow
2 Dismantle swift AWD engine out gearbox out diff out. wreck.
3 manual gearbox out of GE sigma and into other GE sigma that will be registered.
4 Finnish assembling Baleno GTX engine and drop in
5 pull out of other Baleno engine and rebuild then put back in
6 Finnish Green Scorpion with 4G63 swap and sell
7 Then look at the GE which will probably be in 5 years lol.

i'm chatting to some guy who is putting a 20B rotary in his sigma at the moment. he seems to know a fair bit about the swap. so am pretty keen to do it. but the baleno was for sale to fund the swap lol. so its off the cards at the moment. registering the sigma so i have a car to drive, so should deffinatly make the next cruise lol.

i can hook any one up for cheap respray when they are ready. PM me and we can organise a time for who ever to come down and get my guy to have a look at it and give a proper quote

[GC75]

cool sounds alright, if only my rust could be attended to at the same price