Flares vs tubbed

[75glnt]

Which one would you go? Flares? It tubbed guards?

Flares; better stance (obviously with the right wheels fitted), and can fit a nice wide, deep offset rim. Oh. And jdm points yo haha

Tubbed; wider tyres without changing the track of the car. Keeps it all hidden well. But to fit a nice offset wheel. The diff will need shortening anyway.

Keep in mind I will be using a different diff. So there may be some shortening going on anyway.

[Scorpma82]

Use massive bolt-on flares....theme like an early-mid 80's Aussie Touring car

You could call it the "Group LC Big Banger"

[75glnt]

Lol no. I think they look stupid!

Just a small set like IncorpoRatedX has on the wagon

Or mini tubs

[geezer101]

This one falls into the realm of body/structural mods. I think you won't be getting far with mini tubs without an in-jun-ears report to make it legal (and then you'll have to somehow get the extra tyre width approved)- the flares will be legal, but jamming big feet under them and altering track over the maximum allowed width and offset will, once again, make it an issue for registration approval...

[webby]

I'm not a fan of tubbed guards on small cars at all, IMO it looks daft, so I'm going to ignore that option.

Flares then.
Don't go too wide, again, it'll look daft. The shape of the car doesn't suit massively wide flares, not like other, boxier cars, so unless you want to go the whole hog and make it look like a sports sedan keep it sensible. 30mm rear/25mm front per side would be the widest I'd go.
Your guards will need cutting out to suit, otherwise the flares are a waste of time and money.
If you're planning on the whole JDMYO thing, rail it. Stretched tyres look retarded when there's more than a pinkie width at most of guard/tyre gap.
Fat tyres will work with up to an inch of guard/tyre gap.
Make sure whoever does the bodywork does a good job, there's nothing like a badly fitted set of flares to ruin an otherwise good looking car.
MAKE SURE YOUR WHEEL/TYRE COMBO FILLS THE GUARDS. There's absolutely zero point in running flares if you're just going to stick with standard width/offset rims, and again, it will look daft.

Then we come to getting it past rego, which is a whole other kettle of fish that I'm not well-informed enough about Queensland regs to get into.

[75glnt]

Yea I'll look into it before hand.. But I will be running 17x9.5 -13 rota rb-x (so far!) on the rears. And 17x7.5 +20 on the fronts.. Although I may go wider and deeper up front to make sure the flares are full!

I'm not going for the whole JDMYO look. Just a tight flush fit with a small stretch.. Tidy I guess

The utes for the jdm stuff ;)

Thanks for your opinions and both are very valid points! Makes it a pain really

[mic_77]

9.5 wide wheels will fit on a GC sedan by relocating the shocks inboard like a galant wagon set-up and cut away the useless bits and some minor adjustments to the inner wheel tub with a hammer.

Cheers Mic

[75glnt]

Yea but I have a gb sedan.. Narrower guards :/

[mic_77]

Same principle applies once the shocks are moved you gain a heap of room.

Cheers Mic

[75glnt]

Oh cool will have to look at that.

Had anyone got a pic of a gb sedan with flares?? I wouldn't have a clue how it would look

[75wagon]

What body shell are we talking here?
Is this for your GB?
If it is the GB, with wheels the sizing you have mentioned, you are going to have to solve the front wheels hitting both the front apron and the firewall when you are turning.
And on the rear you are going to need some pretty serious flares.

Here's a pic of one of my wagons with 16x8 + 10s on it. Wagons share the same rear guards openings as a GA/B.

From my calculations:
With the rear rim sizing you'll be looking at the outside edge of the rim being 30mm further outside the guard.
With the front rim sizing you'll be looking at the outside edge of the rim being approx 16mm further in then what I have in this pic. Saying that though, the GC/D front guards are larger in the wheel arch, and this wagon has GH struts/ brakes which narrows the front wheel track by approx 20mm, so obviously with stock Galant struts/ brakes add another 10mm on that width shown there.
What motor are you planning to run? Will you need to upgrade the front struts/ brakes or keeping the stock Galant ones?

BTW, those 16x8 +10s rub on the firewall and the front wheel arch on full lock in both directions.

Dave...

[75glnt]

This is for my gb sedan with the well worked 4g32.

If the rears sit out 30mm further out. I might go that size and flares. 30mm rears and 28mm fronts.

Only issue I'm going to have is the front rubbing on the apron and firewall.

I will be running standard galant struts converted to coilovers and adjustable strut tops.

What can I do about the front rubbing?

[75wagon]

Big hammer and a pair of tin snips?

[75glnt]

good on ya but possibly a more... Neater version? Could work? Lol

[A112H]

Not the worst way I have seen, if done well.

http://www.boostcruising.com.au/forums/ ... pic=264875

[IncorpoRatedX]

i used a cut off wheel to trim the front of the lower fender and a big hammer to bash in the wheel well area, i run 15x8 0 offset on the front. lowered about 2 inches, no rubs.

[75wagon]

i run 15x8 0 offset on the front. lowered about 2 inches, no rubs.

Are you running the standard struts?
If that's the case it's got me buggered how it doesn't rub on the firewall at least.
What tyre size are you running? I'm running 205 50 16 on 16x8 +10 offset and they rub front and rear on GH struts (narrowed track by 20mm) and on my GC wagon I'm running 205 60 13 on 13x6 +5 offset on Galant struts, and they just rub on the firewall on the drivers side.

Dave...

[75glnt]

Yea I've seen that on drift cars jase. But dodgier just pulled the lip out, no cutting or anything.

[C_Fernance]

I've just bought a set of flares of ebay. I was considering the Topstage ZG flares, but was worried they would be too big. Ended up finding a set a lot closer in size, and cheaper too. Hope they are decent quality and fit OK, I'll find out when they get here.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-bo ... 1197436878

[cheaterparts]

its a bit hard to see my front flares - but I just run a plasma cutter around the guard about 20 mm front the bottom edge leaving the last pieces at both ends conected
them pulled the cut section out by hand measuring the distance ( we were aloud 50 mm per side ) I went 40 mm and then using stips of 1 mm sheet added into the guard
a small amound of shaping with a hammer left us just to smooth up with some Bog
I only use a 7" rim as its also max by our racing rules but the wheels are neg 7 off set

the rear was easier I just pumped the guards with a 5 tonne jack once the distance was reached and bit of a tidy up was all that was needed
to use the same rims with a 40 mm wider diff

[75wagon]

Have you got any pics of that method you used cheaterparts?

[cheaterparts]

Have you got any pics of that method you used cheaterparts?

sorry I was very slack and didn't bother to take any pics -- My bad I guess

[IncorpoRatedX]

i run 15x8 0 offset on the front. lowered about 2 inches, no rubs.

Are you running the standard struts?
If that's the case it's got me buggered how it doesn't rub on the firewall at least.
What tyre size are you running? I'm running 205 50 16 on 16x8 +10 offset and they rub front and rear on GH struts (narrowed track by 20mm) and on my GC wagon I'm running 205 60 13 on 13x6 +5 offset on Galant struts, and they just rub on the firewall on the drivers side.

Dave...

sorry for the late reply, stock struts, cut springs.

tires are 195/50

i hammered the rear of the fenderwell a little, but it clears.